mlswe wrote: tiltbillings wrote:
mlswe wrote:going for refuge implies shelter, what is it that the triple gem shelters from? suffering.
Suffering is being blind to the truth that there is anatta
Buddhists are a concept containing substrata and is conditioned.
Therefore it is ultimately not true.
"Buddhists" is a name, no?
names are conditioned according to the Buddha, no?
Doesnt the buddha say conditioned things, ultimately are not true?
however, conventionately Buddhists have confidence in the triple gem
there is a difference between "having confidence in" and" goin for refuge" in this way, described as above
well you can perhaps say that going in the direction of the refuge by having confidence in the triple gem, but this distinction by actually using the triple gem as a moment to moment shelter from suffering and moving towards that by that confidence is important
that it is important is my opinion, and you naturally do what you want with that
wishing you well
If one follows this line of thought, you are sayting that conventional Dhamm teaching is false,
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
There is freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning. If there were not this freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning, then escape from that which is birth, becoming, making, conditioning, would not be known here. -- Ud 80
Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.
dheamhan a fhios agam
Damned if I know.