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Postby PeterB » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:58 am

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"A Buddhist discussion forum on the Dhamma of the Theravada..."


Is any of this ambiguous and difficult to understand ?
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Postby tiltbillings » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:03 am

PeterB wrote:The forum sub banner reads

"A Buddhst discussion forum on the Dhamma of the Theravada..."


Is any of this ambiguous and difficult to understand ?
You mean, the unvoiced subtext: We a bunch of Hinayana gits needing proper salvation.?
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Postby Kim OHara » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:07 am

Can't understand day without night.
Can't understand Theravada without ...
:stirthepot:
:popcorn:
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Postby tiltbillings » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:07 am

Let me state that Mahayanist are welcome here. I value the input of our learned Grand Vehicle friends. What is the problem is the sectarian pushiness that we here sometimes see from well-meaning but misguided folks who think we Theravadins might need a little coxing done the "right" path.
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Postby PeterB » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:08 am

:lol: I was rather hoping that it meant " discussion is invited concerning the Dhamma of the Theravada there being after all lots of other forums for the discussion of other schools "
But then I am a simple minded Theravadin slumped in my Hinayana gloom.
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Postby tiltbillings » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:08 am

Kim O'Hara wrote:Can't understand day without night.
Can't understand Theravada without ...
:stirthepot:
:popcorn:
:tongue:
Kim

We can understand the Theravada without the Mahayana.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
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Postby PeterB » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:09 am

PeterB wrote::lol: I was rather hoping that it meant " discussion is invited concerning the Dhamma of the Theravada by Theravadins and Mahayanists alike there being after all lots of other forums for the discussion of other schools "
But then I am a simple minded Theravadin slumped in my Hinayana gloom.
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Postby tiltbillings » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:12 am

PeterB wrote::lol: I was rather hoping that it meant " discussion is invited concerning the Dhamma of the Theravada there being after all lots of other forums for the discussion of other schools "
But then I am a simple minded Theravadin slumped in my Hinayana gloom.
If a Mahayanist or a non-Buddhist is here to discuss and participate in what is going on here without telling us or implying in some way or other that we have it wrong, they are quite welcome as far as I am concerned. We get enough intramural squabbling without importing any.

It become an interesting question of how do we discuss the Mahayana here.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
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Postby PeterB » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:12 am

Kim O'Hara wrote:Can't understand day without night.
Can't understand Theravada without ...
:stirthepot:
:popcorn:
:tongue:
Kim

If you are serious and not merely :stirthepot: then I assure you that the Theravada needs no interpretation by the Mahayana.
The evidence is though that something about the Theravada keeps on drawing Mahayanists back.
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Postby PeterB » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:14 am

PeterB wrote:
PeterB wrote::lol: I was rather hoping that it meant " discussion is invited concerning the Dhamma of the Theravada by Theravadins and Mahayanists alike there being after all lots of other forums for the discussion of other schools "
But then I am a simple minded Theravadin slumped in my Hinayana gloom.


I added a bit Tilt.
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Postby tiltbillings » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:18 am

PeterB wrote:
PeterB wrote:
PeterB wrote::lol: I was rather hoping that it meant " discussion is invited concerning the Dhamma of the Theravada by Theravadins and Mahayanists alike there being after all lots of other forums for the discussion of other schools "
But then I am a simple minded Theravadin slumped in my Hinayana gloom.


I added a bit Tilt.
I see that. And I agree.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
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Postby plwk » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:36 am

Those were the days where the Buddha and His Elders were capable of making such like Niganthaputta vomit hot blood and :shock: ...
Has the Northern brethren dented the glow? :tongue: :D
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Postby PeterB » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:45 am

plwk wrote:Those were the days where the Buddha and His Elders were capable of making such like Niganthaputta vomit hot blood and :shock: ...
Has the Northern brethren dented the glow? :tongue: :D

Dunno.
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Postby Kim OHara » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:09 am

PeterB wrote:
Kim O'Hara wrote:Can't understand day without night.
Can't understand Theravada without ...
:stirthepot:
:popcorn:
:tongue:
Kim

If you are serious and not merely :stirthepot: then I assure you that the Theravada needs no interpretation by the Mahayana.
The evidence is though that something about the Theravada keeps on drawing Mahayanists back.

:hello: Peter,
I'm rarely totally serious but rarely totally unserious. That post was on the flippant side :tongue: but I do think we should all be able to learn from everyone - even if it's just to sharpen our brains by working out where the truth lies when we disagree. Doctrines which cannot stand up to criticism are not worth adhering to, IMHO.

On the other hand, trolls are trolls whatever they want to waste our time on, and may be politely but firmly discouraged. And I agree that the main business of this forum is what it says on the shopfront: the Theravada.

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Postby PeterB » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:35 am

Well you know what the Bhikkhu said to the Bhikshu, Kim..." there are two ways of approacing the Buddhas teachings..there is your way and then there is HIS way "..... :smile:
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Postby Spiny O'Norman » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:48 pm

tiltbillings wrote:It become an interesting question of how do we discuss the Mahayana here.


Respectfully would be my suggestion.

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Postby kirk5a » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:35 pm

Spiny O'Norman wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:It become an interesting question of how do we discuss the Mahayana here.


Respectfully would be my suggestion.

Spiny

I agree. Which is related to "Not regarding it as self or as opposed to self."
"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230
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Postby Ben » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:44 pm

PeterB wrote:Well you know what the Bhikkhu said to the Bhikshu, Kim..." there are two ways of approacing the Buddhas teachings..there is your way and then there is HIS way "..... :smile:


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Postby kirk5a » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:53 pm

PeterB wrote:Well you know what the Bhikkhu said to the Bhikshu, Kim..." there are two ways of approacing the Buddhas teachings..there is your way and then there is HIS way "..... :smile:

And then the Bhikshu said "are you trying to say I'm not following HIS way, but YOU are?? :jedi:

and they went on to have a nice discussion.
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Postby PeterB » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:55 pm

Spiny O'Norman wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:It become an interesting question of how do we discuss the Mahayana here.


Respectfully would be my suggestion.

Spiny

I could point you to a number of posts in recent days that have shown great dsirespect to the Theravada...I would be interested if you could draw my attention to posts that disrespect the Mahayana.
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