parth wrote:Then given that Geeta is a part of Mahabharata and delves into similar aspects of conquering desires etc., moksha (freedom from rebirth) etc. why does nobody mention / debate those concepts with Buddha.
The Mahābhārata was not composed by one author at one point in time but is an composite work that most likely begun to take shape during the Buddha's lifetime but was not committed to its final form for roughly 800 more years. The portion known as the Bhagavad Gīta was most likely not composed until sometime in the first centuries of the common era.
The story told reflects a more ancient setting, but the text itself does not predate the Buddha.
parth wrote:So it coould be that Mahabharata (incl Geeta )/ Ramayana were written as part of strategy for revival of Bramhanical society after the damage it had suffered due to Buddha's teachings or it could also be due to the vaccum created by decline of Dhamma in the land of its origin, India.
I don't know that Brahmanical society suffered so much under Buddhism. Many of the most famous Buddhists from the various early schools were from Brahman families and the Buddha seemed to get on well with many of the Brahmans he coversed with as recorded in the Suttas.
In order to delude the demons, he (Lord Buddha) was present in the form of a child on the way while the foolish Jina (a demon), imagined him to be his son. Later on, Lord Sri Hari (as avatara-buddha) expertly deluded Jina and other demons by his strong words of non-violence.By deluding the demons Buddha was able to get back the power to the devas. – Brahmanda Purana
` The delusion of the false teacher paused not with the conversion of the Daityas to the Jaina and Bauddha heresies, but with various erroneous tenets he prevailed upon them to apostatize, until the whole were led astray, and deserted the doctrines and observances inculculated bythe 3 Vedas. [The teacher was an illusory form of Vishnu, while the Daityas could not be destroyed whilst they performed the sacred rites adn were slain b the gods]'
-- [V.P. Bk III Ch XVIII p. 271]
At this time, reminded of the Kali Age, the god Vishnu became born as Gautama, the Shakyamuni, and taught the Buddhist dharma for ten years. Then Shuddodana ruled for twenty years, and Shakyasimha for twenty. At the first stage of the Kali Age, the path of the Vedas was destroyed and all men became Buddhists. Those who sought refuge with Vishnu were deluded.
- Bhavishya Purana
"tatah kalau sampravritte sammohaya sura-dvisham buddho namnañjana-sutah kikateshu bhavishyati
Then, in the beginning of Kali-yuga [he] will become the Buddha by name, the son of Anjana, in Bihar, for the purpose of confusing those who were enemies of the devas. - (srimad-bhagavatam 1.3.24)
The various Indian religious traditions were pretty adaptive and seemed to borrow from Buddhism pretty liberally. The Gīta seems to mostly continue with themes already developed in early Upaniśads.
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