Points to ponder

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Points to ponder

Postby rowyourboat » Sat May 07, 2011 4:58 am

We are all equal, individualism, don't bow to another man vs know more, respect, teacher-student 

Craving natural, wholesome vs craving unwholesome 

Anger normal expression vs unwholesome 

Body beautiful, should be displayed, 'sexual suppression' vs craving/sensuality, 3rd precept, foulness of the body

aggression, ambition, me first vs contentment, working together, metta

Alcohol, drugs vs mindfulness

Instant enjoyment vs delayed enjoyment

scientific evidence vs right view

Death-end vs rebirth

Human only vs other realms

Material goals vs spiritual goals

Commitment to pleasure vs commuting to nibbana/letting go

'socialising, enjoyment vs seclusion, effort

Positivity vs dukkha

consequences vs kamma

New is good, old is outdated vs ancient wisdom better

Free expression vs considered expression, right speech

Animals for our consumption vs all beings have an equal right to life

What do you think?  :smile:

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Re: Points to ponder

Postby ground » Sat May 07, 2011 6:06 am

rowyourboat wrote:What do you think?  :smile:


You may be thinking in extremes.


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Re: Points to ponder

Postby daverupa » Sat May 07, 2011 6:59 am

The Buddha's lists are more useful.

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    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
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Re: Points to ponder

Postby Kim OHara » Sat May 07, 2011 11:11 am

Anger normal expression vs unwholesome ---- both normal and unwholesome!

Alcohol, drugs vs mindfulness ---- mindfulness is better

scientific evidence vs right view ----- these two are not really opposites

New is good, old is outdated vs ancient wisdom better ---- there's no particular value in 'new' or 'old' but there's a lot of value in 'true'
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Re: Points to ponder

Postby rowyourboat » Mon May 09, 2011 9:05 pm

Hi Kim,

I wasn't trying to point out opposites, but equivalent elements in modern thinking vs Theravada Buddhism. Right view carries with it an element of faith, certainly (evidence vs faith?) but that certainly helps to overcome suffering!

With regards to emotions like anger/craving modern thinking would consider them as integral part of the mind, where the Dhamma would see it as something we can function better, without.

Spiritual 'faculties' (indriya) is another thing which is not known to modern science.

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Re: Points to ponder

Postby icyteru » Fri May 27, 2011 3:16 pm

that's called dualism
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