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What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

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Re: What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

Postby son of dhamma » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:31 am

From what I've extensively studied in the Pali Canon and commentaries (I have also extensively studied Mahayana doctrines, but I am not calling upon that here), Jesus seemed to have profound jhanic abilities, probably as a result of having been previously born in the Mahabrahma plane, and perceived himself a certain way before passing into Manussa, or human plane. He would have been able to do the magic (power by jhanic virtue) that is illustrated pervasively in Christian scriptures, and it would explain his relationship with "God" in that he is the Mahabrahma and the original source of theistic doctrines, as it is presupposed in the Abhidhamma Pitaka. One of the brahmas of the second jhana passes away into Mahabrahma, at the end of the continued dissolution phase when the world begins to form. Finding himself alone there for quite a long time, he perceives that he is the father of all this creation and that he is omnipotent. Later, when he becomes lonely, some other beings pass away as a result of the depletion of their merits, and they too perceive him as being the father of all that is. This process continues into the evolution phase, until finally some of these beings fall onto the forming earth. As beings become less materially subtle their kamma makes a layer of nutriment on the surface of the water due to the sun's heat. Once they begin to partake of this nutriment, they develop craving for it and their bodies become coarser and grosser, and eventually they split into sexes. Simultaneously their kamma causes molds and fungi and then plants to form, and then some degenerate into animals, and eventually everything balances out into a stable biological ecosystem in the continued evolution phase. Even the seven day creation has some credibility, as the celestial days are much, much longer in Mahabrahma (as it says in Abhidhamma).
Abhidhamma also explains that the world-system is destroyed by fire each time, at the dissolution phase, and that all beings in the world-system will be in the higher planes, mostly as Gods of Streaming Radiance (second jhana, higher achievement).
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Sometimes no Buddhas arise in the world. Sometimes they do. When it happens, it is for the welfare and happiness of men, out of compassion for all creatures. For a long, long time he has been working to become a Buddha. He met other Buddhas along the way. And after his long striving he attains his final life, yet not without showing everyone else how to get there.

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Re: What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

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Re: What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

Postby clw_uk » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:31 pm

Jesus grounded his teaching in the idea of a permanent self

this comes from grasping

grasping = dukkha


Jesus taught morality, but he did not know the truth of nature
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Re: What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

Postby Individual » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:09 am

This wonderful thread is proof of the great diversity of Buddhist views of Jesus Christ. :)
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Re: What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

Postby Reductor » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:14 am

Dear JLY:

Don't weary everyone here with your tripe. Seriously. Its a load.

Oh, and in order for Jesus to qualify as the Buddha's replacement, he'd have to have something to offer of the same caliber. But he hasn't anything more than some niceties, which pale in comparison to the Lord Buddha's systematic teachings for the cessation of suffering. Everything else that he did offer rest entirely upon his being the son of God; a claim rivaled by many of the more imbalanced patients of the local psych ward.

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Re: What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

Postby JesusLovesYou » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:18 am

"The time is here, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel."
--Mark 1:15

"The gospel is that Jesus Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that He was buried, and then He was resurrected on the third day."
--1Cor 15:1-4

"He was delivered over to death for our sins and then was raised to life to put us right with God. By faith in this, then, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand."
--Romans 4:25-5:2

"If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are put right with God, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in Him will never be put to shame."
--Romans 10:9-11

"That which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. We write these things to you that your joy may be full."
--1 John 1:3-4

Anyway, it is basically the job of Christians to spread the gospel. Just thought I would.
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Re: What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

Postby pilgrim » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:32 pm

JLY
Mark16, verse 17-18: "And these signs will follow those who believe in my name. They shall cast out devils, they shall speak in tongues, they will handle snakes and if they drink poison it will not hurt them and they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover".

Maybe, if you can come back here to post after ingesting some cyanide, you might be more credible. :jedi:

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Re: What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

Postby bodom » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:33 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: What do Buddhists think of Jesus Christ?

Postby rowyourboat » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:12 pm

This thread is really interesting.

Here's a challenge: if a Christian and a Buddhist were to be neighbours without declaring war on each other, what teaching in their respective traditions would they have to draw upon to get along?

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