the great vegetarian debate

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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby knitted » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:00 am

I believe it is no longer simply an issue of preventing cruelty to animals. Resources are so scarce that our current habits will destroy us all. I find myself less and less willing to eat anything that we do not grow or cook ourselves, or comes from local ingredients. Mass production = mass extinction.
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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby Ron-The-Elder » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:27 pm

by knitted » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:00 am

I believe it is no longer simply an issue of preventing cruelty to animals. Resources are so scarce that our current habits will destroy us all. I find myself less and less willing to eat anything that we do not grow or cook ourselves, or comes from local ingredients. Mass production = mass extinction.


Sounds good, but what do you do when you live in Alaska during the winter months? How about Tibet? Antarctica?

Get's tough to grow things yourself.
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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby knighter » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:28 am

Hello there

If we were ment to be vegetarians,
why are animals made out of meat :rofl:
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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby nekete » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:05 am

Ron-The-Elder wrote:
by knitted » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:00 am

I believe it is no longer simply an issue of preventing cruelty to animals. Resources are so scarce that our current habits will destroy us all. I find myself less and less willing to eat anything that we do not grow or cook ourselves, or comes from local ingredients. Mass production = mass extinction.


Sounds good, but what do you do when you live in Alaska during the winter months? How about Tibet? Antarctica?

Get's tough to grow things yourself.


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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby porpoise » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:41 pm

Ron-The-Elder wrote:Sounds good, but what do you do when you live in Alaska during the winter months? How about Tibet? Antarctica?.


Haven't they got Tescos yet? :jumping:
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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby cooran » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:55 am

Hello all,

For the first time in years and years, I heard this song:

Cows with Guns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5s5qGg01nE

Still brought a smile after all this time. :jumping:

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---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---
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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby Mojo » Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:50 am

nekete wrote:Image


I've gone back and forth with vegetarianism since I was 18 or 19 and have been away from the practice for about a year now mostly as an issue of convenience that I rationalized into an issue of health. Anyways, I came across this photo a few days ago which got my gears turning and so I've decided to try treating vegetarianism as an ideal not an identity this go around but vow to not eat meat out of craving anymore.
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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby Buckwheat » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:30 am

nekete wrote:Image

I would eat the pig. :twisted: :embarassed: Sorry, but it's true.
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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby porpoise » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:13 am

Buckwheat wrote:I would eat the pig. :twisted: :embarassed: Sorry, but it's true.


Me neither. I'd rather have the company. ;)
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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby nekete » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:44 am

Buckwheat wrote:
nekete wrote:Image

I would eat the pig. :twisted: :embarassed: Sorry, but it's true.


What's really true it's that you never will have to choose between die or eat a pig in a desert island. The true is that everyday most of the people choose to buy a killed pig in a supermarket full of non bloody food.
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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby Aloka » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:56 am

I can't remember if I've posted in this thread before, but I've been a vegetarian since not long after thinking when I was a teenager that I didn't want to eat my friends . (i liked all animals that I saw or had any contact with, still do.)

So no, there's no way I'd eat the pig....or eat pork from a supermarket.

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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby mogg » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:57 am

knitted wrote:I believe it is no longer simply an issue of preventing cruelty to animals. Resources are so scarce that our current habits will destroy us all. I find myself less and less willing to eat anything that we do not grow or cook ourselves, or comes from local ingredients. Mass production = mass extinction.

Frankly I'm not really worried about mass extinction...its a certainty for all life on Earth regardless of what we do. Our concern shouldn't be trying to fix samsara (leave that to the Christians), our goal is to end suffering here and now.
Samsara is broken. It cannot be fixed.

I adhere to the precepts and eat meat occasionally. What goes into my mouth isn't my primary conern.

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Re: the great vegetarian debate

Postby corrine » Thu May 09, 2013 5:57 pm

About that whole living in Alaska thing. A dear friend lived in Tok, Alaska for several years. She was vegetarian. She had a large greenhouse thing going and grew all sorts of veggies all year. In addition, and this was back in the sixties when it was more difficult, she ordered large amounts of wheat, grains, dried beans etc. for long term storage. She did okay. She also ordered cartons of books this way as she had no television or electronics as we do now. Today I imagine it would be quite easy. Just get the equipment and move forward.

There is always a way should one wish to avoid harming other living things. Ethical behavior is not always easy but it is usually doable should one wish to make the effort. I think sometimes we just look for excuses to do as we please.

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