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Pure consciousness awareness is the unconditioned. - Dhamma Wheel

Pure consciousness awareness is the unconditioned.

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Pure consciousness awareness is the unconditioned.

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I don't see in these quotes where Ajahn Sumedho, or the Suttas, say that this development of awareness, refuge, etc, is Nibbana. I think there is a serious confusion here between the path and the destination.

In fact, as I recall, Ajahn Sumedho has explicitly stated in a talk I listened to (perhaps on his 70th birthday) that he has not realised Nibbana.

Having some knowledge and confidence in the Dhamma, or even having some insights, is not Nibbana. There is a lot more work to be done.

In the absence of a teacher to point out how much one still has to learn (that's one of the most important roles of my teachers...), reading a little about the Progress of Insight might be helpful.
http://aimwell.org/Books/Mahasi/Progress/progress.html
http://www.buddhanet.net/imol/develop.htm

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Re: Pure consciousness awareness is the unconditioned.

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The OP i feel raised two points, one was that awareness as a refuge isnt a teaching of the Buddha and the other that pure awareness is the state of an Arahant (i.e. unconditioned etc)


In reguards to awareness as true refuge not being taught by Buddha, i feel this is incorrect

In reguards to our current differences in understanding of nibbana, thats fine we just read/understand the suttas that discuss it slightly differently


(sorry robertk if one of these isnt a point you was addressing, i couldnt tell which but of my statement you disagree with)


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