Re: Ian Stevenson, Rebirth, and the Suttas
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:52 am
It simply matched your complaint in depth and acuity.alan wrote:You can do better than that, tilt. Your complaint is not specific.
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It simply matched your complaint in depth and acuity.alan wrote:You can do better than that, tilt. Your complaint is not specific.
I could dispute this, but I find your response not worthy of consideration. I certainly don't have time to go searching for references to dispute with every sceptic who posts on these forums. From the sceptic's POV, what it says in the texts and commentaries is not trustworthy, so even if shown the original Pāli, the sceptic will remain unconvinced. To dispute any further will merely disrupt the thread from its original purpose, which was to reconcile the Buddha's teachings with Dr Ian Stevenson's accounts.alan wrote:I would seriously doubt your account of the meditation techniques used, Bhikkhu Pesala. Since you are quoting scriptures, can you show us an example? For the point of discussion, it should be plain to see that the understanding of past lives was a product of the Buddha's awakening. Can anyone dispute this? If so, please show.
---James the Giant wrote:We missed the boat there. He died some time ago.
He might still be available though, we just have to find the right child and ask the right questions.
Hi
In the studies of Ian Stevenson about memories of children concerning their past lives, I find three things which don't quite fit with the Buddha's teachings:
1°) They were humans each time in their previous lives (not animals, petas...etc...)
2°) They were reborn in a place near where they lived before
3°) There is sometimes several weeks or months between the death and the rebirth.
How do U explain all these facts.
I don't see the contradiction with Buddhism.Sacha G wrote:Hi
In the studies of Ian Stevenson about memories of children concerning their past lives, I find three things which don't quite fit with the Buddha's teachings:
1°) They were humans each time in their previous lives (not animals, petas...etc...)
2°) They were reborn in a place near where they lived before
3°) There is sometimes several weeks or months between the death and the rebirth.
How do U explain all these facts.
Sacha G
Have you carefully looked at Stevenson's research?alan wrote:I'm not a sceptic, Bhikkhu Pesala. I'm just asking a question.
Was the understanding of rebirth a part of the Buddha's awakening? I say yes. What do you say?
Can children remember their past lives? I say no.
That is a question that goes directly to the OP and to your proclaimation, which gives rise to the question: Have you carefully read through any of Dr Stevenson's research?alan wrote:That is a reply, not an answer.
The question is direct to you and your proclaimation:alan wrote:Have you? If so, please tell.
If you have not carefully read any of Stevenson's research, your dismissal of it holds no water.Alan wrote:Can children remember their past lives? I say no.
You can but you would be inaccurate.alan wrote:But I could say the same thing to you.
Yes, and you are doing your best to avoid answering the question put to you by trying to counter my question with your question. Answer the question that was put to you first.Have you read him, and if so, what proves his assertions?