What carries and accumulates wholesome/unwholesome qualities

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What carries and accumulates wholesome/unwholesome qualities

Postby Alex123 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:51 pm

Hello all,

What carries and accumulates wisdom (paññā) from moment to moment?
What carries and accumulates other wholesome qualities (such as alobha, adosa) from moment to moment?
What carries and accumulates unwholesome qualities (such as lobha or dosa) from moment to moment?

Is it bhavaṅga citta, or some other kind of citta?


With metta,

Alex
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Re: What carries and accumulates wholesome/unwholesome qualities

Postby ajahndoe » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:14 am

There is nothing carried, only related. If you harm someone and they later harm you, this is not because you or any part of you carried anything. It is due to the attachment in the mind of another, a seed planted within their mind which ripens in the form of violence upon you. Causes of related Effects. This is how all things work, including our Karma and skillful means used to break the mind out of unwholesome states and views.
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Re: What carries and accumulates wholesome/unwholesome qualities

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:44 am

Greetings,

Does the Abhidhamma talk about anything being "carried (by x)" or "accumulated (by x)?

I think you'd start there before asking the "what" does the carrying or accumulation.

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Re: What carries and accumulates wholesome/unwholesome qualities

Postby Alex123 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:30 pm

Hello Venerable Ajahn Doe, Hello Retro,


The question is about the mechanism that accumulates qualities such as wisdom or ignorance.

How does the mental quality that one has developed affect the future mental states?

If nothing is "carried", "accumulated" or "stored", then it is useless to develop anything as it will not affect anything in the future.

With best wishes,

Alex
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Re: What carries and accumulates wholesome/unwholesome qualities

Postby mikenz66 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:45 pm

Dear Members,

Please be aware that this is the Abhidhamma Forum. Off topic posts may be removed.

I would appreciate a detailed reply in terms of Abhidhamma, though I tend to think that Retro's reply sums it up reasonably well.

:anjali:
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