Which sutta is this from?

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Which sutta is this from?

Postby perkele » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:16 pm

Hello!
I am searching for a sutta where the Buddha, speaks (among other things I guess) about the perils of fatalism.
He says something to the extent that if someone thinks "I have done this or that bad deed. Therefore surely I will go to hell", if he does not abandon that view then, "as if carried away", or something, he would, with the breakup of the body, reappear in hell.
Googling for the latter phrase just brought up the Maha-Sinanda-Sutta. And otherwise I don't really know the wording or any specific phrase to search by. It would be great if someone had an idea which Sutta I am talking about. I am quite sure I have read it and I would like to read it again.
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Re: Which sutta is this from?

Postby daverupa » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:20 pm

Probably SN 42.8:

"[The thought occurs to him,] 'Our teacher holds this doctrine, holds this view: 'All those who steal... All those who indulge in illicit sex... All those who tell lies are destined for a state of deprivation, are destined for hell.' There are lies that I have told. I, too, am destined for a state of deprivation, am destined for hell.' He fastens onto that view. If he doesn't abandon that doctrine, doesn't abandon that state of mind, doesn't relinquish that view, then as if he were to be carried off, he would thus be placed in hell."
    "There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?

    [kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya


    "Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
- MN 8 - Sallekha Sutta
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Re: Which sutta is this from?

Postby perkele » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:50 pm

Thanks!
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