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Wrong livelihood - which professions?

Postby steinghan » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:02 am

Hi All

I've recently got my curiousity triggered with respect to exactly which professions involve earning one's living by a wrong form of livelihood, so wonder if those more learned in the Pali canon than I, can help with these questions:

Is there anywhere in the Theravada canon, where the professions in breach of right livelihood (samma ajiva) are explicitly mentioned? In lieu of that, which suttas or other canonical sources are the most accurate with respect to such professions?

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Re: Wrong livelihood - which professions?

Postby Ben » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:33 am

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Re: Wrong livelihood - which professions?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:23 am

Please see which discusses the topic in more detail.

It is an important topic. The way that you earn a living has a powerful effect because it the kamma that you are doing every day.

Even if your livelihood is not immoral or wrong-livelihood according toe the strict definition of the texts, it still has a significant effect on your future happiness.

In our modern materialistic society, there are many ways of earning a living that depend on encouraging foolishness, and the endless pursuit of sensual pleasures. It may be perfectly lawful and not immoral pleasures, but it is not a wholesome livelihood.

The ideal livelihood would be one that encourages wholesome kamma such as giving charity, observing morality, learning, or the development of wisdom.
• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: Wrong livelihood - which professions?

Postby steinghan » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:26 pm

Thank you both, for replying. I have red through that other thread mentioned. As far as canonical text goes, I found only the same sutra already posted here together, together with a related, very freely translated commentary. Apart from some references to dhammapada and a sutra - both at most only indirectly related to the topic of "professions involve earning one's living by a wrong form of livelihood" -, the said thread only contains personal opinions and interpretations.

Can I take it that the one and only sutta known to readers of this thread and naming the professions in question is AN 5.177 ?

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Re: Wrong livelihood - which professions?

Postby anando » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:15 pm

Hi,
the only profession that is allowed ist the one of a teacher.

anando

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:namaste:

You will not be punished FOR your 'emotions'; you will be punished BY your 'emotions'.



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