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Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby convivium » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:54 am

What are your favorite chapters in the Vism?
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php
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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby jcsuperstar » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:03 am

i dont have any, what are yours?
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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby BlackBird » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:59 am

The introduction.
"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta
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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby Reductor » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:07 pm

I haven't read it yet, but its on my stack. Likely I'll start in a couple of months... then I'll answer your post.

It is surprising that there hasn't been a post in the positive yet. I thought that the visuddhimagga was popular reading here.
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To his own ruin the fool gains knowledge, for it cleaves his head and destroys his innate goodness. -- Dhp 72

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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby adeh » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:13 pm

The chapter on the Brahma Viharas, the section on recollecting the qualities of the Buddha and the section describing the jhanas.
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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby bodom » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:43 pm

Chapter on the

Ten Recollections

Recollection of the Buddha
Recollection of the Dhamma
Recollection of the Sangha
Recollection of Generosity
Recollection of Virtue
Recollection of Deva Virtues
Recollection of Death
Recollection of The Body
Recollection of The Breath
Recollection of Peace


A Meditators Tools: A Study Guide on the Ten Recollections
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/stud ... tions.html

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah
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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:00 am

Hi thereductor,

thereductor wrote:I thought that the visuddhimagga was popular reading here.


It is with me. I take it just about everywhere I go. Any opportunity to read a couple of paragraphs, I'll pull it out.
Some sections I have read over and over again and I have to admit there are some sections that I have not yet read, and some that I've read only once. The section at the beginning that covers ascetic practices, for instance, isn't a section I'll review whenever I approach a retreat.
While I find the Vism a treasure trove, its not everyone's cup of tea. It is dense in detail and written in an archaic and formulaic style. However, I believe it is worth persisting with regardless whether one's practice is informed by the commentarial tradition or not. Its an invaluable reference and an essential for any Theravadin library.
Metta

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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725


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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby Reductor » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:14 am

Ben wrote:Hi thereductor,

thereductor wrote:I thought that the visuddhimagga was popular reading here.

... Its an invaluable reference and an essential for any Theravadin library.
Metta

Ben


I pick it up often and flip through it... but have (almost) held off reading it thus far. It occurred to me that I should have a firm grasp of the sutta pitaka before starting into the commentary. Still, I did read the chapter on ascetic practices and enjoyed that pretty much.

When its time to read it, I'll read it from cover to cover and see what all the hubbub is about.

FYI, I bought it on your recommendation, so I'll be holdin' you responsible if I don't like it. :jumping:

See you around.
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And friendliness towards the world is happiness for him who is forbearing with living beings. -- Ud. 2:1
To his own ruin the fool gains knowledge, for it cleaves his head and destroys his innate goodness. -- Dhp 72

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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:12 am

Hi thereductor,

thereductor wrote:FYI, I bought it on your recommendation, so I'll be holdin' you responsible if I don't like it. :jumping:

See you around.


Thanks. Its humbling to know I've made such an impact on you!
And if you don't like it, you're more than welcome to hold me responsibile!
I hope, like me, you get a lot out of it!
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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725


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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby Reductor » Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:43 am

Ben wrote:I hope, like me, you get a lot out of it!
metta

Ben


:smile:
Michael

The thoughts I've expressed in the above post are carefully considered and offered in good faith.

And friendliness towards the world is happiness for him who is forbearing with living beings. -- Ud. 2:1
To his own ruin the fool gains knowledge, for it cleaves his head and destroys his innate goodness. -- Dhp 72

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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:56 am

The bits I've gone back to a few times are the Brahmaviharas (where it's interesting to observe that most modern instructions are based on this) and some of the insight sections. It is particularly useful to have around when reading other material that make reference to it, such as Bhikkhu Bodhi's Sutta Translations, or Ven Analyo's book on Satipatthana.

While it's useful to at least skim through it to get the overall shape, I use it more as a reference. I appreciate the way it summarises what must be experiences of a large number of different Bhikkhus and Bhikkhunis and some of their anecdotes are quite amusing...

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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:16 am

mikenz66 wrote:and some of their anecdotes are quite amusing...

Don't forget the similes Mike, some of them are amazing!
kind regards

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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725


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Re: Favorite Visuddhimagga Chapters

Postby Alex123 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:00 am

convivium wrote:What are your favorite chapters in the Vism?


Sections on
1) Mindfulness of Death
2) Repulsiveness of Nutriment
3) Contemplation of 4 Elements
4) Some sections in Wisdom part (ex: rise & fall chapters, definition of 12 spheres & 18 elements)
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