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by Justin » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:33 pm
In listening to Dhamma talks and chanting on the websites of various Theravadin monasteries, I have noticed that some group pronounce v's as w's in Pali (i.e., Bhaga
vato, brahma
vihara). (I'm reminded of the Vesak vs. Wesak semantics, but I know that Vesak is Sinhalese). Could anyone help shed some light on why different groups pronounce v's differently, and what the pronounciation rules for v are in Pali?
Much metta,
Justin

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by Dhammanando » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:53 pm
The classical Pali grammars classify the consonant as dento-labial (i.e. requiring the upper front teeth to be in contact with the lower lip). So, v is more likely the correct pronunciation, since w is a bilabial consonant. But in practice SE Asian Buddhists will pronounce it as a w because their native tongues (Thai, Lao, Khmer etc.) don't have a v sound.
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by Justin » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:10 pm
Many thanks!

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