Dhammapada Gatha names?

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Dhammapada Gatha names?

Postby Cittasanto » Thu May 03, 2012 10:52 am

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Does anyone know where I can find the names to the Dhammapada verses?
for an example the verses 183-5 are know as the Ovāda-pāṭimokkha Gāthā.
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Re: Dhammapada Gatha names?

Postby daverupa » Thu May 03, 2012 11:04 am

Perhaps it is possible those names reflect an/the earlier organization method via nine categories (possibly 12, iirc), and that not all survive the reshuffling which we have extant.

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Re: Dhammapada Gatha names?

Postby Cittasanto » Thu May 03, 2012 4:12 pm

Hi Dave,
so do you know?
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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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Re: Dhammapada Gatha names?

Postby BKh » Thu May 03, 2012 5:04 pm

Cittasanto: Could you give us some more examples of names of Dhammapada verses? The one you mentioned is the only one I can think of that might have a name. The Dhp commentary story to that set of verses is named "ānandattherapañhavatthu." Those verses also appear in DN14. They also appear in the Vinaya. In the commentary to the Vinaya (pārājikakaṇḍa-aṭṭhakathā, verañjakaṇḍavaṇṇanā, vinayapaññattiyācanakathāvaṇṇanā) they seem to be given the name ovādapātimokkhaṁ. The only other place I can find "ovādapātimokkha" is in the Udana commentary to the Uposathasutta. So it doesn't seem to be connected with the Dhp at all.

My experience with Sri Lankan monks is that the verses are referred to by the first words of the first line, not any sort of names.

If you don't get an answer from this forum, this seems like something Bhante Anandajoti would know the answer to.
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Re: Dhammapada Gatha names?

Postby Cittasanto » Fri May 04, 2012 8:43 am

Paṭhama-buddha-bhāsita-gāthā V.153-154
Khemākhema-saraṇa-gamana-paridīpikā-gāthā V.188-192
Ti-lakkhaṇ’ādi-gāthā V.277-279

These are the others I know the names for, I know of the first word use, however I didn't know the Ovadapatimokkha had another name, so Thanks.
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