Hello there, I'm looking for a way to restate or summarize the concept of anatta in Pali, just in a simple phrase. Is there a possible way to say something along the lines of "I am free from self," "There is no I," or "This is not me?" Almost like a bumper-sticker phrase to sum up what anatta means without using the term to define itself, you know?
Any help would be appreciated!
Pali explanation of Anatta
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Pali explanation of Anatta
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.
Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.
His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta
Stuff I write about things.
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.
Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.
His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta
Stuff I write about things.
Re: Pali explanation of Anatta
Here is the stock passage found within the suttas:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .nymo.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Anatta-lakkhana Sutta: The Discourse on the Not-self Characteristic'This is not mine, this is not I, this is not my self.'
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .nymo.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Liberation is the inevitable fruit of the path and is bound to blossom forth when there is steady and persistent practice. The only requirements for reaching the final goal are two: to start and to continue. If these requirements are met there is no doubt the goal will be attained. This is the Dhamma, the undeviating law.
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Re: Pali explanation of Anatta
Perfect! Now if someone could only point out how "This is not mine, this is not I, this is not myself." would be rendered in Pali?
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.
Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.
His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta
Stuff I write about things.
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.
Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.
His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta
Stuff I write about things.
Re: Pali explanation of Anatta
If you go to the link cited and click on "S iii 66" at the top, you get the Pali.
However, that may not be useful.
If you go here:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... tml#anatta" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
you get Pali and English.
Mike
However, that may not be useful.
If you go here:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... tml#anatta" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
you get Pali and English.
"Yam-panāniccaṃ dukkhaṃ vipariṇāma-dhammaṃ,
Kallaṃ nu taṃ samanupassituṃ,
Etaṃ mama eso'ham-asmi eso me attāti."
"And is it fitting to regard what is inconstant, stressful, subject to change as:
'This is mine. This is my self. This is what I am'?"
Mike
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Re: Pali explanation of Anatta
mikenz66 wrote:If you go to the link cited and click on "S iii 66" at the top, you get the Pali.
However, that may not be useful.
If you go here:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... tml#anatta" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
you get Pali and English.
Mike[/quote]
So "Evam-etaṃ yathābhūtaṃ sammappaññāya daṭṭhabbaṃ" would be "This is not mine. This is not my self. This is not what I am?" But I know that sammappannaya is "with right discernment" right? So are the two phrases kinda inexorably linked? In which case, would it be possible to simply have the Pali for "This is not my self. This is not what I am?" Or is it impossible to simply render it like that?
Thanks for the help everyone!
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.
Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.
His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta
Stuff I write about things.
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.
Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.
His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta
Stuff I write about things.
Re: Pali explanation of Anatta
'netaṃ mama, neso'hamasmi, na meso attā'LonesomeYogurt wrote:In which case, would it be possible to simply have the Pali for "This is not my self. This is not what I am?"
Best wishes, Dmytro