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Question about etymology.

Postby Individual » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:54 am

Is the Pali "atta" related to the Greek "auto" (both meaning self)? That is, is the latter derived from the former?

Is there a lot of cross-linguistic influence between Pali\Sanskrit and Greek\Latin?
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Re: Question about etymology.

Postby Dhammanando » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:32 am

Individual wrote:Is the Pali "atta" related to the Greek "auto" (both meaning self)?


I don't think so. The PTS dictionary relates it to the Greek ατμός (atmos: vapour, steam), Old High German ātum (to breathe), and the Anglo-Saxon aeþm (breath).

That is, is the latter derived from the former?


I don't think any Greek words are derived from Pali. Rather, the two languages are thought to ultimately derive from an hypothesized common root language, so-called Proto-Indo-European.

Is there a lot of cross-linguistic influence between Pali\Sanskrit and Greek\Latin?


There are a great many words in the two languages that derive from common roots, but not as many as in the Slavic languages.

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Re: Question about etymology.

Postby Individual » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:59 am

Dhammanando wrote:
Individual wrote:Is the Pali "atta" related to the Greek "auto" (both meaning self)?


I don't think so. The PTS dictionary relates it to the Greek ατμός (atmos: vapour, steam), Old High German ātum (to breathe), and the Anglo-Saxon aeþm (breath).

That is, is the latter derived from the former?


I don't think any Greek words are derived from Pali. Rather, the two languages are thought to ultimately derive from an hypothesized common root language, so-called Proto-Indo-European.

Is there a lot of cross-linguistic influence between Pali\Sanskrit and Greek\Latin?


There are a great many words in the two languages that derive from common roots, but not as many as in the Slavic languages.

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Re: Question about etymology.

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:29 am

Individual wrote:Is the Pali "atta" related to the Greek "auto" (both meaning self)? That is, is the latter derived from the former?

Is there a lot of cross-linguistic influence between Pali\Sanskrit and Greek\Latin?


their has been a study done on this and Sanskrit latin and greek are all thought to come from the same root language.
if you look at the words in each for Mother, Father, and Horse they are very similar (these were the ones mentioned in the study).
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