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Anatta = not Atman or No-Self

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Re: Anatta = not Atman or No-Self

Postby Alex123 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:51 pm

Can bhavanga sota be studied by science? If not, then it is article of faith.

Also, what does bhavanga sota depend on? What is its cause? It cannot be self-subsisting phenomenon.
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Re: Anatta = not Atman or No-Self

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Anatta = not Atman or No-Self

Postby Alex123 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:05 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Anatta = not Atman or No-Self

Postby polarbear101 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:45 pm

When it comes down to it, there isn't any argument from commentarial concepts or from Ian Stevenson or from past life regression therapists that can actually lead one to have faith in rebirth, besides all these things are highly dubitable. Faith in rebirth comes from realizing that the Buddha is the wisest person in human history, no other religious figure, philosopher, scientist or whatever, comes close to being as wise as the Buddha. On that basis, one accepts that the Buddha really was awakened, that he wasn't deluded about that, and that he could tell the difference between a hallucination and an actual recollection of past lives. So all the metaphysical speculation about how the process of rebirth functions doesn't really do anything in the end. One experience ends and another begins, and this just goes on and on, according to the Buddha, until one relinquishes all craving.

(Edit: Just realized this is in the Pali section, my apologies for being off topic)

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Re: Anatta = not Atman or No-Self

Postby Alex123 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:12 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Anatta = not Atman or No-Self

Postby Alex123 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:24 pm

Thank you, Dmytro.
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