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Translation Question

Postby sherubtse » Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:13 am

Question 8, Exercise 4, of _the Pali Primer_ asks for a translation of
the following sentence:

"Kumaaraa mittehi saha bhuupaala.m passanti."

In the Pali Day-by-Day answers, on www.tipitaka.net, the answer is given
as: "Boys, [together] with friends, see the king."

But I had translated it as: "Boys see the king with [his] friends."

Would someone please explain why my answer is not correct? How does one know that the word
"mittehi" goes with "kumaaraa" and not with "bhuupaala.m"?

Thank you.

With metta,
Sherubtse

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Re: Translation Question

Postby Dhammanando » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:04 am

Hi Sherubtse,

sherubtse wrote:Question 8, Exercise 4, of _the Pali Primer_ asks for a translation of
the following sentence:

"Kumaaraa mittehi saha bhuupaala.m passanti."

In the Pali Day-by-Day answers, on http://www.tipitaka.net, the answer is given
as: "Boys, [together] with friends, see the king."

But I had translated it as: "Boys see the king with [his] friends."

Would someone please explain why my answer is not correct? How does one know that the word
"mittehi" goes with "kumaaraa" and not with "bhuupaala.m"?


When using saha or saddhiṃ, normal Pali word order requires the things/persons accompanying to be stated immediately after the things/persons accompanied. To express your translation the word order would have been:

kumārā bhūpālaṃ mittehi saha passanti

Best wishes,
Dhammanando Bhikkhu
The Great Sage did thus proclaim
With many a diverse chosen name
Vipassanā stilled and purified,
That to Emergence is allied.

Saṃsāra-cycle’s swamp of pain
Is vast and terrible; a man
Wisely should strive as best he can,
If he would this Emergence gain.
(Visuddhimagga XXI)

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Re: Translation Question

Postby sherubtse » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:26 pm

Thank you very much for your help, Bhante. :namaste:

With metta,
Sherubtse


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