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It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby walkart » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:46 pm

Hello dear knowers of pali,

Pali is a dead linguage, can pali be revived and be applied in everyday live?
We have anought information about pali to revive it?

If YES, why nobody realise this project?

Thank you.
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:22 pm

walkart wrote:Hello dear knowers of pali,

Pali is a dead linguage, can pali be revived and be applied in everyday live?
We have anought information about pali to revive it?

If YES, why nobody realise this project?

Thank you.
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Pali is a liturgical language.
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby walkart » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:37 pm

tiltbillings wrote:Pali is a liturgical language.

You mean that pali is a sacred language and we can't make of pali a everyday language? Or that pali is strictly liturgical language and because of that our knowledges about pali are not complete to revive it?
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:39 pm

walkart wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:Pali is a liturgical language.

You mean that pali is a sacred language and we can't make of pali a everyday language? Or that pali is strictly liturgical language and because of that our knowledges about pali are not complete to revive it?
If you want to make Pali an "everyday language," that is not out of the realm of possibilities, but with whom are you going to speak it?
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:40 pm

walkart, please see this thread too:

can people who are pali experts converse in it?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16946
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby walkart » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:54 pm

tiltbillings wrote:]If you want to make Pali an "everyday language," that is not out of the realm of possibilities, but with whom are you going to speak it?


I doont know, but i think it would be good project to create a monastry or some kind of school where pali would be everyday language.
It would alow to much more peoples to read Tipitaka directly with better comprehention, alow dirrect communication between buddhist of different countires etc.

Actualy it's the first question that i'am asked myself when i knew that pali is "dead", why there is no any monastry that practice it in daly basis.
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby walkart » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:10 pm

TheNoBSBuddhist wrote:walkart, please see this thread too:

can people who are pali experts converse in it?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16946


Thank you ! :anjali:
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby bharadwaja » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:33 pm

That is an interesting suggestion. There are already thousands of speakers of this language in India... Maybe you mean to suggest that we start such a community in the West?

That wouldn't be called a revival, though.
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby walkart » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:45 pm

bharadwaja wrote:That is an interesting suggestion. There are already thousands of speakers of this language in India... Maybe you mean to suggest that we start such a community in the West?

That wouldn't be called a revival, though.


In most places that it's possible ! :smile: In every monastry it would be great, i think.

But of coarse it will still dead until only monastics will speak it and not lay peoples at their home.
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby Kare » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:50 pm

Of course it is technically possible. See what happened to hebraic/ivrit. But you need a really strong motivation for many people in order to create the critical mass of language users necessary for making it a living language. Somehow I am not sure that motivation exists.
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby pilgrim » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:00 am

Theoretically possible, but think of the amount of new words that would need to be created to accommodate all the stuff we created in the last 2000 years.
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:08 am

If we've managed to follow the Buddha and practise the Dhamma all that time, no new words are necessary, and modernising it according to our mores, totally superfluous....
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Re: It is technicaly possible to revive Pali language?

Postby Valujira » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:28 am

If you want a language to be reused/revived, you need simply to use it first by yourself & to spread it around to people who know it (to some extent) and to make interest in those who still hadn't got it yet.

We've something like that with Sanskrit, it is old-old one, but in order to preserve it there are people who speak it, read and write it now days, like blogs, Facebook etc. There's also a Sanskrit newspaper, published in Vadodara (Gujarat State, India) - language is simple (but in accordance to the grammar of course) and except from casual and everyday news, there are also stories and other interesting staff, there are also translations of Sanskrit words (not all of them, you're expected to understand the least of Sanskrit) to Gujarati, Hindi, Maarthi & English next to the article/news.

So if you've such an interest, and it is in my opinion a very good idea, a way to link Buddhist monks/Buddhists in general together to preserve Gautam's legacy and language.
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