Do you know "Yoniso ca manasikāraṃ" mean?

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Do you know "Yoniso ca manasikāraṃ" mean?

Postby phimanh » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:51 pm

Is it mean Auto-self suggestion?
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Re: Do you know "Yoniso ca manasikāraṃ" mean?

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:02 pm

Yoniso ca manasikāraṃ is "reflecting appropriately" as in:

There is the case where a monk, reflecting appropriately, dwells restrained with the restraint of the eye-faculty. The fermentations, vexation, or fever that would arise if he were to dwell unrestrained with the restraint of the eye-faculty do not arise for him when he dwells restrained with the restraint of the eye-faculty.
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Re: Do you know "Yoniso ca manasikāraṃ" mean?

Postby bodom » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:10 pm

Untangling the Present: The Role of Appropriate Attention by Thanissaro Bhikkhu

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... gling.html

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah
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Re: Do you know "Yoniso ca manasikāraṃ" mean?

Postby jcsuperstar » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:39 pm

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
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Re: Do you know "Yoniso ca manasikāraṃ" mean?

Postby puthujjana » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:40 pm



:anjali:
"Once you understand anatta, then the burden of life is gone. You’ll be at peace with the world. When we see beyond self, we no longer cling to happiness and we can truly be happy."
- Ajahn Chah
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Re: Do you know "Yoniso ca manasikāraṃ" mean?

Postby cooran » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:43 pm

Hello phinamh, all,

A little information from the Pali-English Dictionary:
manasikāra ~ 'attention', 'mental advertence', 'reflection'.
1. As a psychological term, attention belongs to the formation-group (sankhāra-kkhandha; s. Tab. II) and is one of the 7 mental factors (cetasika) that are inseparably associated with all states of consciousness (s. cetanā). In M. 9, it is given as one of the factors representative of mind (nāma) It is the mind's first 'confrontation with an object' and 'binds the associated mental factors to the object.' It is, therefore, the prominent factor in two specific classes of consciousness: i.e. 'advertence (āvajjana, q.v.) at the five sense-doors' (Tab. I, 70) and at the mind-door (Tab. I, 71). These two states of consciousness, breaking through the subconscious life-continuum (bhavanga), form the first stage in the perceptual process (citta-vīthi; s. viññāna-kicca). See Vis.M. XIV, 152.
2. In a more general sense, the term appears frequently in the Suttas as yoniso-manasikāra, 'wise (or reasoned, methodical) attention' or 'wise reflection'. It is said, in M. 2, to counteract the cankers (āsava, q.v.); it is a condition for the arising of right view (s. M. 43), of Stream-entry (s. sotāpattiyanga), and of the factors of enlightenment (s. S. XLVI, 2.49,51). - 'Unwise attention' (ayoniso-manasikāra) leads to the arising of the cankers (s. M. 2) and of the five hindrances (s. S. XLVI, 2.51).
http://www.palikanon.com/english/wtb/g_ ... ikaara.htm

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Re: Do you know "Yoniso ca manasikāraṃ" mean?

Postby jamesve1 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:20 am

I've heard/seen it translated as "Wise Reflection". There's a book about this subject published by the BPS, written by Thailand-based meditation teacher Steve Weissman.

The link for the book is here:

http://bps.lk/wise_reflection.html

Also, there is an interview with Mr. Weissman regarding "Wise Reflection" here:

http://www.thaiasiatoday.com/life-in-th ... tions.html
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