directly related word to Dukkha in English

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directly related word to Dukkha in English

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:16 am



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Re: directly related word to Dukkha in English

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Re: directly related word to Dukkha in English

Postby Rui Sousa » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:19 pm

The English word came from the Latin word, but I could not trace a dolor into Etruscan or proto indo-european, so I couldn't find a common root with Sanskrit or Pali.

For what I can see du-kha and su-kha do not share a root with dolor.



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Re: directly related word to Dukkha in English

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:42 pm

apparently it is linked, but not having knowledge of good etymology sites, or places to speak to, there is a distinct lacking in my ability to find any connection?

don't ya love titbits of info you get from people :)


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: directly related word to Dukkha in English

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Re: directly related word to Dukkha in English

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:14 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: directly related word to Dukkha in English

Postby Kim OHara » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:36 am

I'm sorry, Manapa, if my interpretation of 'apparently' was stronger than yours. To me, 'apparently it is linked' is 'it appears [to me] that it is linked', or 'the evidence I've seen leads me to think it is linked' OWTTE.
If you meant something less definite, my response was a bit stronger than it should have been - though I still don't think there's any benefit to be gained from a definitive answer to the question.
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Re: directly related word to Dukkha in English

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:15 pm

try apparantly, according to the souse of the information, it is linked
as I have no reason to think he is wrong, apart from not being able to find the link, which is more to do with doubt, than a knowing he is wrong, and knowing his credentials in the area, apparantly it is linked!

but having another perspective on Dukkha, to understand the term, cant hurt can it!


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: directly related word to Dukkha in English

Postby Rui Sousa » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:07 pm

From this book by Francis Edward Jackson Valpy:

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I understand that this author is claiming that Dolor cames from Doleo, wich came from the Greek. Not sure if it helps.
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Re: directly related word to Dukkha in English

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