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Pali Terms: Uttarakuru, Pubbavideha, Aparagoyāna, continents

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Postby whynotme » Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:13 am

Many thanks Dmytro,

I want to ask this: I read in Vinaya about the first Council collected 5 Nikayas which means include Khuddaka Nikaya. But some books said only 4 Nikayas were collected after the first Council, the Khuddaka was a later collection. It might be there are some typos or mistranslations and I don't have any clue, .
Can you share some light about this?

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Postby gavesako » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:11 pm

Apparently there the belief among some Thai Buddhists that the Uttarakuru continent actually refers to beings living on another planet. :alien:
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Re: Pali Terms: Uttarakuru, Pubbavideha, Aparagoyāna, continents

Postby theY » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:15 pm

Thank you, for creating this topic at pali section. I tried to practice my English, very hard. So I will talk this topic in pali.

1. 'Suddhāvāse kira anāgāmimahābrahmā isiyo vedapakaraṇaṃ abhaṇi. atha kho cirakālesu atikantesu isayo brāhmaṇā hutvā taṃ pakaraṇameva bhananti.' koci ācariyo maṃ 'imaṃ atthaṃ atthakathāya vutta'nti.

Taṃ ambaṭṭhasutte "Āgatāni kho, tāta ambaṭṭha, amhākaṃ mantesu dvattiṃsa mahāpurisalakkhaṇānī"tiātivatthunā sameti.

Tassa ca atthakathā vuttaṃ "Mahāpurisalakkhaṇanti mahāpurisānaṃ buddhādīnaṃ lakkhaṇadīpakaṃ dvādasasahassaganthapamāṇaṃ satthaṃ. Yattha soḷasasahassagāthāparimāṇā buddhamantā nāma ahesuṃ, yesaṃ vasena iminā lakkhaṇena samannāgatā buddhā nāma honti, iminā paccekabuddhā, iminā dve aggasāvakā, asīti mahāsāvakā , buddhamātā, buddhapitā, aggupaṭṭhāko, aggupaṭṭhāyikā, rājā cakkavattīti ayaṃ viseso paññāyatī"ti.

Tasma "kathaṃ imaṃ pakaraṇaṃ veddo viyā"ti evaṃ kaṅkhamāno na yujjati.

2. Mahābrahmā vā iddhimantā vā amhakaṃ mattaṃ na ganeyyuṃ. Tasma te te theories tipiṭakana vā atthakathāya vā vuttaṃ, ādittacandanapamānikaṃ vā dīpantaraddhānayocanapamānikāṃ vā aññe tule vā, gahetvā "Buddtist theories 'science'to na sametī"ti na vaṭṭati.

Tañhi atirekamattā tipiṭake vā atthakathāya vā atthi. Keci 1 yojanaṃ~=1km, keci 1 ~=16km.

So, we can't compare tipitaka and commentary's system or scale with science's.

3. Mahābrahmā vā iddhimantā vā talamattaṃ aññamaṇṇehi na sameyyuṃ. Eko "Pluto"tārakaṃ ṭhitamāno ādittaṃ vā candaṃ vā disvā ekaṃ pamānikaṃ bhaṇeyya. Aparo "mar" ṭhitamāno ekaṃ pamānikaṃ bhaṇeyya. Āñño aññacakkavāḷaṃ ṭhitamāno añña-ādittamattaṃ pamānikaṃ bhaṇeyya. Te hi ekavatthukaṃ apassiṃsu. ṭehi pana pamānaṃ kataṃ aññamaññaṃ na samenti. Tasma mayaṃ poraṇamattaṃ na jāneyyuṃ.

4.Whoever didn't practice follow tipiṭaka, atthakathā, and ṭīkā, they can't actually deny or accept that point, because they are acinteyya.

5.Sineru can refer to axis, sun, or any other thing, that analysts can guess, if they don't try to guess only another view.

, etc.

How there significant to know about size of the sun ?

P.S. I think, I shouldn't write in pali anymore if I don't want to practice my pali writing-- harder than english! (but before I began to practice english, it was easier.) I skip my tried with english to have a headache with pali~

I hope someday we will have pali offline dictionary for linux.
Above message maybe out of date. Latest update will be in massage's link.
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