chanting gibberish with a pure heart?

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chanting gibberish with a pure heart?

Postby lojong1 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:48 am

Some locals have been chanting this Pali line while 'sharing the merit with others': "Edam te punnakamma, asavakia viham hontu."
What they think it means is this: "By virtue of these [my] wise actions [having practised anapanasati] may all the cancers/hindrances be eliminated."

Is this Pali correct (it seems not to me), is it appropriate to use in this situation, and what's wrong with chanting gibberish anyway?
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Re: chanting gibberish with a pure heart?

Postby Reductor » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:44 am

lojong1 wrote:...and what's wrong with chanting gibberish anyway?


Nothing, if the heart is pure. Plus, you may put a smile on the face of another, or make them laugh... and really, isn't that the greatest gift of all? Haha.

EDIT: Oh, and I don't think that pali is right. Shouldn't punnakamma be inflected as punnakamma.m, for instance? That's the first thing that comes to mind, but I'm a long way from competent in pali.
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Re: chanting gibberish with a pure heart?

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:00 pm

I think the Pali should be:

Idam me ñātinaṃ hotu-sukhitā hontu ñātayo

which means:

May my relatives share these merits and
May they be well and happy!
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Re: chanting gibberish with a pure heart?

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:02 pm

lojong1 wrote:is it appropriate to use in this situation, and what's wrong with chanting gibberish anyway?


As long as there is a pure heart, then it is appropriate.

It's not gibberish if you know the meaning and the heart is pure, imo.
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