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by 8fold » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:04 am
In brief, The Five Aggregates ---I don't understand them.
Can anyone recommend a good book on this topic?
Thank you.
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by rowboat » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:17 am
I'd recommend Mathieu Boisvert's
The Five Aggregates: Understanding Theravada Psychology and Soteriology:
http://www.amazon.com/Five-Aggregates-U ... 0889202575
Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it. Ud 5.5
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by bodom » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:19 am
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by vinasp » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:47 am
Hi 8fold,
None of the books which I read made any sense.
Nyanatiloka in his Buddhist Dictionary in the
entry on Khandha says:
"Some writers on Buddhism who have not understood
that the five khandha are just classificatory
groupings, have conceived them as compact entities
( heaps, bundles ), while actually, as stated above,
the groups never exist as such." page 98
If it is just a fivefold classification framework, then
there is really nothing to understand.
The real mystery is what is being classified into these
five groups, or what is a dhamma.
Regards, Vincent.
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by daverupa » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:08 pm
Identity and experience: the constitution of the human being according to early Buddhism & Early Buddhism: a new approach : the I of the beholder, both by Sue Hamilton.
"There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?
[kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya"Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
- MN 8 - Sallekha Sutta
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by BKh » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:14 pm
Don't forget the 22nd saṁyutta in the Samyutta Nikaya. Some suttas are here:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .html#sn22The complete collection is in The Connected Discourses of the Buddha, Bhikkhu Bodhi Trans.
You might want to consider just reading one or two each day, and then when you get to the end, start at the beginning again. Several times.
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by 8fold » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:22 am
Thank you, everyone.
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by Ñāṇa » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:30 am
daverupa wrote:Identity and experience: the constitution of the human being according to early Buddhism by Sue Hamilton.
This study is probably the most thorough survey of sutta passages, etc., pertaining to the five aggregates.
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by 8fold » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:27 am
Identity and experience: the constitution of the human being according to early Buddhism ---- $145 !!!
....guess I gotta work on my attachment to money!
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by Ñāṇa » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:10 pm
8fold wrote:Identity and experience: the constitution of the human being according to early Buddhism ---- $145 !!!
It's a decent book but hardly worth that price IMO. If you can get a cheaper used copy or borrow a copy through an inter-library loan, then that would be the way to go.
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by daverupa » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:54 pm
Perhaps ask a local college or university to order it for their library.
"There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?
[kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya"Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
- MN 8 - Sallekha Sutta
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by danieLion » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:33 am
Ñāṇa wrote:8fold wrote:Identity and experience: the constitution of the human being according to early Buddhism ---- $145 !!!
It's a decent book but hardly worth that price IMO. If you can get a cheaper used copy or borrow a copy through an inter-library loan, then that would be the way to go.
Like Nana and daverupa say, it's worth whatever you've got to do get a copy (most states/provinces allow photocopying for personal use).
good-will
Daniel
"You stop me, obviously with a demand for a personal explanation. 'How is it, you write, 'that you reject with such immitigable scorn the very foundation-stones of Buddhism, and yet refer disciples enthusiastically to the technique of some of its subtlest super-structures?'
I laff."
-Aleister Crowley,
Magick Without Tears,
Chapter XXVII: Structure of Mind Based on that of Body (Haeckel and Bertrand Russell)"Questions of reality are too important to be left to the scientists."
-Paul Feyerbend,
The Tyranny of Science, p. 51 (Polity: 2012).
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by danieLion » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:44 am
Yes, Sue H's book is the one to get.
good-will
"You stop me, obviously with a demand for a personal explanation. 'How is it, you write, 'that you reject with such immitigable scorn the very foundation-stones of Buddhism, and yet refer disciples enthusiastically to the technique of some of its subtlest super-structures?'
I laff."
-Aleister Crowley,
Magick Without Tears,
Chapter XXVII: Structure of Mind Based on that of Body (Haeckel and Bertrand Russell)"Questions of reality are too important to be left to the scientists."
-Paul Feyerbend,
The Tyranny of Science, p. 51 (Polity: 2012).
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