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Inner goodness

Postby greggorious » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:59 pm

In Therevada, is there an innate goodness within each of us, is there an original nature, is there original mind, Buddha nature? What is there? Are we just completely empty beings with nothing going for us and enlightenment is some far off dream that most of us will never attain?
"The original heart/mind shines like pure, clear water with the sweetest taste. But if the heart is pure, is our practice over? No, we must not cling even to this purity. We must go beyond all duality, all concepts, all bad, all good, all pure, all impure. We must go beyond self and nonself, beyond birth and death. When we see with the eye of wisdom, we know that the true Buddha is timeless, unborn, unrelated to any body, any history, any image. Buddha is the ground of all being, the realization of the truth of the unmoving mind.” Ajahn Chah

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Re: Inner goodness

Postby Jason » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:58 am

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Re: Inner goodness

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:27 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Inner goodness

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Re: Inner goodness

Postby greggorious » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:11 pm

"About this mind... In truth there is nothing really wrong with it. It is intrinsically pure. Within itself it's already peaceful. That the mind is not peaceful these days is because it follows moods. The real mind doesn't have anything to it, it is simply (an aspect of) Nature. It becomes peaceful or agitated because moods deceive it. The untrained mind is stupid. Sense impressions come and trick it into happiness, suffering, gladness and sorrow, but the mind's true nature is none of those things."

Ajahn Chah

The parts in bold sound an awful lot like Buddha nature to me.
"The original heart/mind shines like pure, clear water with the sweetest taste. But if the heart is pure, is our practice over? No, we must not cling even to this purity. We must go beyond all duality, all concepts, all bad, all good, all pure, all impure. We must go beyond self and nonself, beyond birth and death. When we see with the eye of wisdom, we know that the true Buddha is timeless, unborn, unrelated to any body, any history, any image. Buddha is the ground of all being, the realization of the truth of the unmoving mind.” Ajahn Chah

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Re: Inner goodness

Postby mikenz66 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:35 pm

Hi Greggorious,

Here are some discussions of Buddha Nature in the context of quotes such as the one you give:
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=12817
Including one you started some time ago:
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=11429
I suggest you continue with this discussion of those issues on one of those threads, or start a new one outside of Discovering Theravada.

:anjali:
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