Silly question alert-kamma

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Ngawang Drolma.
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Silly question alert-kamma

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Fri May 15, 2009 12:53 am

Hi all,

I've been taught that the body is old kamma (manifested).
Is this accurate?

Thanks :anjali:

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Re: Silly question alert-kamma

Postby Dhammanando » Fri May 15, 2009 2:09 am

Hi Drolma,

In the Abhidhamma the body is said to consist of mind-produced and temperature-produced rūpas as well as kamma-produced ones.

It is the six sense-bases that the Buddha taught as being "old kamma". The fifth of these bases is of course "body", but here the word doesn't mean the body as a whole, but only the bodily sensoria.

    Kamma Sutta

    "Monks, I will teach you new & old kamma, the cessation of kamma, and the path of practice leading to the cessation of kamma. Listen and pay close attention. I will speak.

    "Now what, monks, is old kamma? The eye is to be seen as old kamma, fabricated & willed, capable of being felt. The ear... The nose... The tongue... The body... The mind is to be seen as old kamma, fabricated & willed, capable of being felt. This is called old kamma.

    "And what is new kamma? Whatever kamma one does now with the body, with speech, or with the mind: This is called new kamma.

    "And what is the cessation of kamma? Whoever touches the release that comes from the cessation of bodily kamma, verbal kamma, & mental kamma: This is called the cessation of kamma.

    "And what is the path of practice leading to the cessation of kamma? Just this noble eightfold path: right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. This is called the path of practice leading to the cessation of kamma.

    "So, monks, I have taught you new & old kamma, the cessation of kamma, and the path of practice leading to the cessation of kamma. Whatever a teacher should do — seeking the welfare of his disciples, out of sympathy for them — that have I done for you. Over there are the roots of trees; over there, empty dwellings. Meditate, monks. Don't be heedless. Don't later fall into regret. This is our message to you."

Best wishes,
Dhammanando Bhikkhu
    Yathā bubbuḷakaṃ passe, yathā passe marīcikaṃ,
    Evaṃ lokaṃ avekkhantaṃ, maccurājā na passati.

    One should see it as a bubble;
    One should see it as a mirage.
    Who regards the world thus
    The King of Death sees him not.
    (Dhammapada 170)


    ผู้ที่มองเห็นโลก ว่าไม่จีรังและหาสาระอะไรมิได้
    เช่นเดียวกับคนมองฟองน้ำและพยับแดด
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Re: Silly question alert-kamma

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Fri May 15, 2009 2:25 am

Wonderful explanation Bhante, thank you :anjali:

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Re: Silly question alert-kamma

Postby tiltbillings » Fri May 15, 2009 2:29 am

Wonderful explanation Bhante, thank you


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Re: Silly question alert-kamma

Postby for49 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:49 pm

there is an old tibetan saying that :buddha1: ""if you want to know about your past then look at your present body and if you want to know about future then look at your present mind"

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Re: Silly question alert-kamma

Postby Paul Davy » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:39 am

Greetings,

Please try keeping a Theravada focus to responses made in the Theravada forums.

Metta,
Retro. :)
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