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Suffering - Is it skandhas or attachment to them?

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Ngawang Drolma.
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Suffering - Is it skandhas or attachment to them?

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:10 pm

Is it the skandhas that cause us suffering, or the attachment to them?

Thanks :)

[EDIT: Topic title edited to provide greater clarity of the question at hand - Retro.]


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Re: Attachment

Postby thecap » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:24 pm

Hi Drolma

Is this a catch question? :)

I'd say attachment causes suffering, but the aggregates condition the manifestation of it.

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Re: Attachment

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:34 pm

Hi Cap

Haha, it's not a trick question. I've saved up all my stupid questions over the past couple of years for one special place on the Internet.

And it's this subforum! :o


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Re: Attachment

Postby stuka » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:49 pm

According to the Buddha's teaching, it is attachment through ignorance that causes suffering.

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Re: Attachment

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:52 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Attachment

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Re: Attachment

Postby christopher::: » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:04 am

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Attachment

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:18 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Suffering - Is it skandhas or attachment to them?

Postby Will » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:42 pm

There is nothing outside the skandhas, so our attachment is part of the feeling or formations ones, I would guess.

On second thought, since craving or attachment is so pervasive, all the skandhas, save form, would be soaked with attachment - in we worldlings.
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Suffering - Is it skandhas or attachment to them?

Postby kc2dpt » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:13 pm

- Peter


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Postby kc2dpt » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:16 pm

- Peter


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Re: Attachment

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:37 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Suffering - Is it skandhas or attachment to them?

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