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Violent threats found in the Cula-Saccaka Sutta

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Violent threats found in the Cula-Saccaka Sutta

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Re: Violent threats found in the Cula-Saccaka Sutta

Postby pegembara » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:00 pm

And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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Re: Violent threats found in the Cula-Saccaka Sutta

Postby BlackBird » Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:54 am

I think if anything it was just that the Buddha knew that the spiritual being was lurking around and getting miffed that the guy wasn't answering the Buddha's questions. I think the Buddha was just trying to protect the guys life rather than threatening him.
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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Violent threats found in the Cula-Saccaka Sutta

Postby daverupa » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:08 am

Could be a pedagogical fable, too, if anything...

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Re: Violent threats found in the Cula-Saccaka Sutta

Postby pegembara » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:28 am

"For a long time, Lord, I have wanted to come and set eyes on the Blessed One, but I had not the strength in this body to come and see the Blessed One."

"Enough, Vakkali! What is there to see in this vile body? He who sees Dhamma, Vakkali, sees me; he who sees me sees Dhamma. Truly seeing Dhamma, one sees me; seeing me one sees Dhamma."[3]

Vakkali Sutta: Vakkali
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .wlsh.html
And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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Re: Violent threats found in the Cula-Saccaka Sutta

Postby dhammabum » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:13 pm

It might be bad form to comment on this post so long after I started it, but I wanted to thank everyone again for their thoughtful responses and to also provide a link to an academic whitepaper on the subject; it looks like I'm in good company:

https://journals.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/i ... /8623/2530

With metta


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