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Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

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Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby Aloka » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:17 pm

Hi All,

I'm planning on booking an interview with Ven Ajahn Sumedho at Amaravati Monastery sometime within the next two months. I am a Tibetan Buddhist practitioner and therefore not sure of the procedure when I go into the room to speak to him because I am not familiar with Theravada protocol.
If it was a lama, I would bow with palms together and then present him/her with a khata (white scarf) and a small gift or a money offering in an envelope. (The Khata is accepted and then the lama gives it back by placing it around one's own neck)
I would then sit down on an indicated seat near to the lama in order to have a conversation. Next I would get up, say thank you with palms together, bow, and leave the room.

Obviously the procedure will be different and I'd be really grateful if anyone could advise me please.

Many thanks and with kind wishes to everyone,

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:46 pm

have a look on their web site it should have the conventions there, but A2I also has a guide in the lay buddhist practice I think it is?


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby Aloka » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:08 pm

Hi Manapa,

I don't think there's anything about interview procedure on the website, but I'll have another look at it. I visited the monastery recently and asked the secretary if I'd be able to get an interview - but forgot to ask about actual procedure in the room. I know I have to have a chaperone. Maybe I'll just phone up and ask nearer the time. It was quite difficult getting someone on the phone when I phoned there before my first visit.

Excuse my ignorance What's A21? Is that something I can find on the Access to Insight website? There's info about Lay Buddhist practice there.

Thanks,

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Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:39 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby clw_uk » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:32 pm

I dont think offering money is a good idea, isnt it against the Vinaya for monks to receive money?
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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:42 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby Aloka » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:52 pm

Hi All,

Thank you for your replies. There is a donation box near the office at the monastery in which one can put money offerings - but I just wondered if it was usual to give a personal offering of any kind to the abbott at an interview.

I'll just put the offering in the other box if its wrong to give him anything.

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby BlackBird » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:36 am

Hey Dazzlebling.

Luang Por Sumedho is held in very high esteem within the Thai Sangha.

Here's are a couple of tips I would suggest:

- Don't point the soles of your feet at any of the Monks, or well - anyone there if you can help it. This is Thai custom and not a Western, nor Buddhist custom, but 'when in rome.'
- If you would like to show your respect towards the Ajahn, a triple bow is good.
- You could maybe offer the Ven. Ajahn a pottle of honey, or a book? Handing an Ajahn a non-monetary & allowable gift in person is good from beginning to end!
- Just be respectful, smile, be courtious and everything will be sweet as :)
- Monks of the Ajahn Chah lineage aren't judgemental, and generally have a great sense of humor.
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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby Aloka » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:49 am

Hey Blackbird,

Thank you very much for your advice - it is greatly appreciated.


Dazzle

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:29 am

Hello Dazzlebling, you dont say whether you are a boy duck or a girl duck.. :smile:
I guess from your reference to an escort you are a woman.
If so then you need to take particular care not to offer to put any gift into the Ajahn's hands directly, as you say, he will indicate where to put things.
Just to add that Luang Por Sumedho is indeed a bit special. May your visit be of great benefit.


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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby Aloka » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:37 am

Hi Sanghamitta,

I am a female duck - quack quackie!

Thank you for your kind words.

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby kc2dpt » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:47 pm

Just to be clear, I think a monk not touching or being touched by a woman is in the Vinaya. The bit not in the Vinaya is the cloth bit.
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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Advice re. Ven Ajahn Sumedho, please.

Postby gavesako » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:21 pm

Ajahn Sumedho likes good coffee.

And he is very easy-going, don't worry about asian protocol too much... :smile:
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