The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:18 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:24 am

Hi Tilt,

Sure, as you say, kamma is not the only factor in causing unpleasant feelings. And I'm certainly not arguing that a Tsumami happens as the result of kamma. But as I understand it, being born in, or moving to, a Tsunami-prone region, may well be...

And, of course, going back to Bhikkhu Bodhi's talk, if one accepts that human-induced global warming is happening, then it is clearly, by definition, a result of human action (setting aside the technicalities of what is vipaka).

I guess we could save a bit of time if we were able to read the old thread on E-Sangha where Retro (among others) went through the same discussion.

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:48 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

Postby bazzaman » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:35 am

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:58 am

Greetings Bazzaman,

No worries... reading the book, I too was quite surprised about how much of what we assume to be Sutta or Vinaya material about the Buddha's life actually comes from the commentarial tradition instead.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

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Re: The Dhamma as cosmic enforcer?

Postby bazzaman » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:19 am

Not much of a reader these past few years (except for what appears on my computer screen). But since you guys like Ven. Nanamoli's book, I'll search it out and buy it.


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