5heaps wrote:Shonin wrote:And even if it does exist it is likely to remain out of the range of my experience.
why say that?
Why? You can say 'it's just this' or 'just that' as much as you like. Yet while I have had some extraordinary insights, and transcendent, timeless experiences, and permanent, profound shifts in my practice and life, I have not experienced what may be called 'permanent, complete and perfect enlightenment' nor do I know of anyone who has. Thus it seems rather unlikely to occur.