Snp 5.9 Todeyya-manava-puccha: Todeyya's Questions

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Snp 5.9 Todeyya-manava-puccha: Todeyya's Questions

Postby mikenz66 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:54 pm

Snp 5.9 PTS: Sn 1088-1091
Todeyya-manava-puccha: Todeyya's Questions
translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu


http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

So — what's it like, being emancipated, anyway?


[Todeyya:]
One in whom there dwell no sensualities; one in whom no craving is found; one who has crossed over perplexity — his emancipation: what is it like?

[The Buddha:]
One in whom there dwell no sensualities; one in whom no craving is found; one who has crossed over perplexity — his emancipation is not other than that.

[Todeyya:]
Is he without desire, or desiring? Discerning or still acquiring discernment? Describe the sage to me, Sakyan with the all-around eye, so that I may recognize what he is like.

[The Buddha:]
He's without desire, not desiring; discerning, not still acquiring discernment. Recognize the sage, Todeyya, as having nothing, unentangled in sensuality & becoming.
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Re: Snp 5.9 Todeyya-manava-puccha: Todeyya's Questions

Postby mikenz66 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:59 pm

Snp 5.9 Todeyya-manava-puccha: The Young Man Todeyya's Questions

Anandajoti Bhikkhu

http://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/T ... avaggo.pdf
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He who has no in-dwelling sense desires, said venerable Todeyya,
he in whom no craving is found,
who crossed beyond doubts, what kind of freedom is there for him?

He who has no in-dwelling sense desires, said the Gracious One,
he in whom no craving is found,
he who has crossed beyond doubts, there is no further freedom for him.

Is he without yearning, or is he still yearning? said venerable Todeyya,
Is he wise, or is he still acquiring wisdom?
I would know just what the sage is like, Sakyan:
Explain that to me, All-Seeing Visionary.

He is without yearning, he is not still yearning.
He is wise, he is not still acquiring wisdom.
Know that the Sage is just like this, Todeyya:
he has nothing, and is not clinging to sense existence.
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Re: Snp 5.9 Todeyya-manava-puccha: Todeyya's Questions

Postby mikenz66 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:05 am

Dictionary of Pali Proper Names
http://www.aimwell.org/DPPN/todeyya.htm

Todeyya.-A disciple of Bāvarī (SN.vv.1006). He visited the Buddha, and his questions, with the answers given by the Buddha, are given in the Todeyya-mānava-pucchā (SN.vv.1088-91). He became an arahant (SNA.ii..597).
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