Knowing directly the origin of nothingness to be the fetter of delight, one then sees there clearly.
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Mike,
Thanks - that makes a bit more sense now... I was taking nothingness literally, rather than as a description of a conditioned formless jhana.
Since literal nothingness is not formed/fashioned (i.e. sankhata) I didn't see how it could be associated with fetters.
kirk5a wrote:Other than that, is "literal nothingness" found in the suttas?
For the one in whom perception of form has ended,
ajjhattaÿ-ca bahiddhà ca n' atthi kiÿcã ti passato,
(who), on the inside and outside is seeing `there is nothing whatsoever',
ÿàõaü Sakkànupucchàmi, kathaü neyyo tathàvidho?
I ask about (his) knowledge, Sakyan, how is such a one led further?"