A misquote of Ajahn Chah

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A misquote of Ajahn Chah

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:40 am

Hello Cittasanto, all

I recently misquoted Ajahn Chah, afirming that he broke a vinaya rule. I remembered it wrong. On Ajahn Chah's facebook page today, was the description of what realy happened:

Once a layman pleaded with Ajahn Chah to read his future (which he never did). Finally Ajahn Chah gave in and looked at his palms. He said: "I will reveal your future, and I never make a mistake in this." The layman was very excited to know his future. Ajahn Chah said: "Your future ... is uncertain."

I apologise for slandering Ajahn Chah and eventualy inducing people in error.
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Re: A misquote of Ajahn Chah

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:10 am

Modus.Ponens wrote:Once a layman pleaded with Ajahn Chah to read his future (which he never did). Finally Ajahn Chah gave in and looked at his palms. He said: "I will reveal your future, and I never make a mistake in this." The layman was very excited to know his future. Ajahn Chah said: "Your future ... is uncertain."


That's right! I remember Ajahn Brahm telling that joke/story when he was here in Las Vegas.

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Re: A misquote of Ajahn Chah

Postby polarbuddha101 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:02 am

What a good way to transform what would be wrong livelihood for a bhikkhu into a teaching of dhamma. I always found this story humorous.

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Re: A misquote of Ajahn Chah

Postby pegembara » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:08 am

Isn't aging, sickness and death the only certainties in life?
And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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Re: A misquote of Ajahn Chah

Postby plwk » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:15 am

Isn't aging, sickness and death the only certainties in life?
You forgot taxes and a mother in law (for the married)...
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it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: A misquote of Ajahn Chah

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:20 pm

Thanks MP for reminding us of that story.
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Re: A misquote of Ajahn Chah

Postby Buckwheat » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:13 pm

Modus.Ponens wrote:Hello Cittasanto, all

I recently misquoted Ajahn Chah, afirming that he broke a vinaya rule. I remembered it wrong. On Ajahn Chah's facebook page today, was the description of what realy happened:

Once a layman pleaded with Ajahn Chah to read his future (which he never did). Finally Ajahn Chah gave in and looked at his palms. He said: "I will reveal your future, and I never make a mistake in this." The layman was very excited to know his future. Ajahn Chah said: "Your future ... is uncertain."

I apologise for slandering Ajahn Chah and eventualy inducing people in error.


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Re: A misquote of Ajahn Chah

Postby Doshin » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:49 am

pegembara wrote:Isn't aging, sickness and death the only certainties in life?

Inescapable, not certainties. Are you certain to get sick ?

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Re: A misquote of Ajahn Chah

Postby manas » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:20 am

Modus.Ponens wrote:Once a layman pleaded with Ajahn Chah to read his future (which he never did). Finally Ajahn Chah gave in and looked at his palms. He said: "I will reveal your future, and I never make a mistake in this." The layman was very excited to know his future. Ajahn Chah said: "Your future ... is uncertain."


This is yet another reason why I like Ajahn Chah so much (although not having personally met him, of course). I'm imagining the audience hushed with anticipation...then he comes out with that 'pronouncement'. lol

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