A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

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An Anagarika and Samanera both can not have jobs the life is a job.

but there is no reason an Anagarika could not have a job outside of the monastery to help support themselves, if necessary, but a Samanera couldn't unless it was something like what Bhikkhu Boddhi or Venerable Analayo has at university.
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Re: A proper preparation for becoming an anagarika

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why cant they have jobs? does the 8 precepts says something about not working? can i informally take the 8 precepts and still have a job. or is working breaking one of the precepts? metta, befriend.
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befriend wrote:why cant they have jobs? does the 8 precepts says something about not working? can i informally take the 8 precepts and still have a job. or is working breaking one of the precepts? metta, befriend.
An Anagarika is not the same as a Lay-person taking the 8 precepts on a long term basis, they are essentially the same as a postulate in christian monastic circles or in some cases a form of monastic at a monastery, so would have certain duties etc there.

there are some who have chosen it as a way of life as they find it beneficial, there have been 15/20 vassa Anagarikas in the west I have heard about, and in Asia they (although under a different name depending on the country) are Anagarikas due to a desire to be a monastic but unable to take on the robes due to some reason (possibly due to a physical problem like a missing leg,) but have the same robes, just white.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
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