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Does age matter?

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Does age matter?

Postby Stiphan » Thu May 03, 2012 7:26 am

It seems like most great monks ordained quite young, mostly in their early 20s. Does this mean that the younger one ordains the better, or is age completely irrelevant?

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Re: Does age matter?

Postby Cittasanto » Thu May 03, 2012 7:48 am

Who are you thinking of?

Age is not a matter to greatness, and there are monks I have met whom ordained in their 50's or 60's who in my opinion are great, yet not well known.


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Postby David N. Snyder » Thu May 03, 2012 4:49 pm

In a Tricycle interview several years back, Thich Nhat Hanh is reported to have said that it is better to ordain young, before so many defilements and 'baggage' has set-in. I think that could be a good point, but I believe it has more to do with the individual person and the contents of the mind/consciousness. For example, a monk who ordains young at say age 12 or 13 might wonder and even regret about not trying out the householder life. Thoughts like 'what might I have been, what might I have achieved, what might it have been like to have a son or a daughter . . . '

The greatest monk I ever met and have known is and he ordained at age 38 after a householder life as a physician.
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Postby alan » Thu May 03, 2012 5:32 pm

Ayya Khema ordained in her mid-fifties. I think her extraordinary life previous to becoming a teacher was one of the reasons she was so effective, and her writing so crisp.

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Re: Does age matter?

Postby alan » Thu May 03, 2012 5:52 pm

No disrespect to TNH, but "baggage" is something you deal with in real life--by accepting your shortcomings and working on them. Just seems way too easy to sit in the monastery without ever creating a life for yourself: Without ever finding what you do best, and how to go about doing it.
As for defilements, they can be worked on, too, in real life. Confronting the reality of our own weaknesses and desires as adults seems to me to be far more useful than hiding away in a monastic setting. When the time comes, and if it is right for your path, do it. Until then create your own peace in every moment. Put the teachings into practice, even when it is hot, noisy and crowded. Even when people really bug you. Even when you'd rather do something else!
A lifetime of sitting won't be of value if you can't do that.

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Re: Does age matter?

Postby Buddha » Sun May 06, 2012 7:49 am

age doesnt matter,it only matter how much time you are meditating (1 year,2 years) and how.
Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without


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