How many monks are required to ordain someone?

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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How many monks are required to ordain someone?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:20 am

How many monks would be required in order to ordain someone? If one were to meet a wandering but officially ordained, precept-keeping monk, could that one monk ordain another?

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Re: How many monks are required to ordain someone?

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:33 am

LonesomeYogurt wrote:How many monks would be required in order to ordain someone? If one were to meet a wandering but officially ordained, precept-keeping monk, could that one monk ordain another?

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no, for acceptance into the sangha as a bhikkhu they would need ordained at least 10 years, and five bhikkhus are needed, the minimum number for a full sangha act in most cases.
EDIT - maybe wrong about the 10 years and it could be 5 as some of the conditions in the vinaya were lessened, such as dependence and I can not remember if this was one of them
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