Ordination

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
Gena1480
Posts: 308
Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:36 am
Which number is larger than 1000 and less than 1002: 1006

Ordination

Postby Gena1480 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:22 pm

How many monks needs to be present
for ordination take place.

karunametta
Posts: 20
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 5:12 pm
Which number is larger than 1000 and less than 1002: 1006

Re: Ordination

Postby karunametta » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:45 pm

In general, I believe 10 in a "buddhist" country and 5 in a non-buddhist country. However, I don't know where the actual rule can be found in the pali canon. This is just from experience of a temporary ordination in the US

User avatar
Bhikkhu Pesala
Posts: 2097
Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:17 pm

Re: Ordination

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:01 pm

It is 10 in the Middle Country of India (majjhimadesa), and 5 anywhere else.
Attachments
Milindas India.pdf
(189.19 KiB) Downloaded 27 times
AIM WebsitePāli FontsIn This Very LifeBuddhist ChroniclesSoftware (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

User avatar
BlackBird
Posts: 1861
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:07 pm
Which number is larger than 1000 and less than 1002: 6
Location: New Zealand

Re: Ordination

Postby BlackBird » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:00 pm

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:It is 10 in the Middle Country of India (majjhimadesa), and 5 anywhere else.


Which is ironic these days as it would be much harder to furnish 10 monks in India for an ordination than many other places.
"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta

Gena1480
Posts: 308
Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:36 am
Which number is larger than 1000 and less than 1002: 1006

Re: Ordination

Postby Gena1480 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:04 am

Venerable Bhikkhu Pesala
What are their roles.

User avatar
Bhikkhu Pesala
Posts: 2097
Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:17 pm

Re: Ordination

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:38 am

Gena1480 wrote:Venerable Bhikkhu Pesala
What are their roles.

One of the 5 (or 10) is the candidate's preceptor, another questions the candidate as to his suitability for ordination before inviting him into the midst of the Sangha for the ordination ceremony. Three monks recite the formal act of the Sangha (kammavāca). All of the monks present consent to the acceptance of the candidate by their silence. If even one monk does not consent to the ordination it is invalid. That is why the ordination must be done within an agreed boundary (sīma), to ensure that all bhikkhus present within it have agreed on the formal act of the Sangha.

A sīma in Asia usually has a specially constructed building, but it doesn't have to. It can be just an agreed area demarcated by stones.
AIM WebsitePāli FontsIn This Very LifeBuddhist ChroniclesSoftware (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)


Return to “Ordination and Monastic Life”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests