Can Novice Monks Teach?

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Can Novice Monks Teach?

Postby P0int » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:49 am

Can novice monks teach?

If they are able, under what conditions can they teach?
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Re: Can Novice Monks Teach?

Postby Indrajala » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:00 am

I don't see why not. A layperson who understands Dhamma should be permitted to teach either formally or informally.

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Re: Can Novice Monks Teach?

Postby Dennenappelmoes » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:31 am

From what I've heard Ajahn Chah used to appoint monks at random to give the talks, as a learning experience for everyone.
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Re: Can Novice Monks Teach?

Postby Alobha » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:38 am

P0int wrote:Can novice monks teach?

If they are able, under what conditions can they teach?



See the Udayi Sutta
I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying at Kosambi, in Ghosita's Park. Now at that time Ven. Udayin was sitting surrounded by a large assembly of householders, teaching the Dhamma. Ven. Ananda saw Ven. Udayin sitting surrounded by a large assembly of householders, teaching the Dhamma, and on seeing him went to the Blessed One. On arrival, he bowed down to the Blessed One and sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One: "Ven. Udayin, lord, is sitting surrounded by a large assembly of householders, teaching the Dhamma."

"It's not easy to teach the Dhamma to others, Ananda. The Dhamma should be taught to others only when five qualities are established within the person teaching. Which five?

"[1] The Dhamma should be taught with the thought, 'I will speak step-by-step.'

"[2] The Dhamma should be taught with the thought, 'I will speak explaining the sequence [of cause & effect].'

"[3] The Dhamma should be taught with the thought, 'I will speak out of compassion.'

"[4] The Dhamma should be taught with the thought, 'I will speak not for the purpose of material reward.'

"[5] The Dhamma should be taught with the thought, 'I will speak without hurting myself or others.'[1]

"It's not easy to teach the Dhamma to others, Ananda. The Dhamma should be taught to others only when these five qualities are established within the person teaching."


Also see: Kathavatthu Sutta.

No direct restriction there. However, as far as I know, it's common that the monks with the most monastic years on their belts take care of teaching the Dhamma in formal settings, as it requires a lot of skill. Novice monks are not forbidden to teach the Dhamma and when one asks them something that they know (in an informal setting for example) and the answer would be of benefit to you, then they will offer their words, too. At least that's my experience.
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Re: Can Novice Monks Teach?

Postby EmptyShadow » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:18 am

Among the laity, the householder Citta was appointed by the Buddha as the lay disciple foremost in expounding the Dhamma.
In several occasions in the suttas, Citta even taught the dhamma to other monks.

In simple logic if a lay disciple can teach the dhamma then a novice can too.

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Re: Can Novice Monks Teach?

Postby P0int » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:44 pm

Thank you friends for sharing resources and your thoughts.

During my continued search for answers I found the Dantabhumi Sutta.
It gives an account of a novice monk, Aciravata, teaching Prince Jayasena.

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