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Visa Myanmar

Postby Gabriel » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:58 pm

HI Dhamma brother and sisters!
I am presently stating the preparation for going to Myanmar. I try to understand the forms for Meditation visa. From what I understand, so far, I have to apply for the visa and once it's ready the visa time start. So I can not plan the exact date I want to leave? How can I buy my air plane ticket in those conditions? And how can I advice the monastery/mediation in advance if I don't know when the visa start? I have to buy them at the last minute? it's pretty confusing.
Also, how long can it take to get the visa? In the web site they say ''It can take a lease 1 month''.

And, maybe, I want to go to Thailand first, so, can I apply from there?

Finally, I herd there is a city in Asia where it take only 2-3 days. Any one know about it?

P.S. I am from Montreal, Canada, the nearest embassy in in Ottawa.

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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Gabriel » Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:03 pm

Haha, I am not use to plan trips that way. I usually travel Hitch hiking or buying my tickets last minute, 3-7 days in advance. I just go :) These visa tings are very confusing to me ^^
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Goofaholix » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:53 pm

If you want to get a meditation visa then you'll need a sponsorship letter from a meditation centre so you'll need to let them know an approximate date you want to go.

They can probably advise you the current best way to get the visa.

Unless things have changed last time I checked if you are applying from home allow at least 4 months. If you go to Kuala Lumpur and apply there you can get it in a few days, possibly Singapore too. I also heard that you Bangkok is now only a few days also.
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Gabriel » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:36 pm

Thank you Goofaholix, That would be nice if I could do it from Bangkok. It would allow me time to visit Thai monastery's as much a I need and than go to Burma when I feel ready.:)
Can some one confirm that info?

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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Ben » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:01 pm

Hi Gabriel,
When I went to Myanmar a few years ago I got a meditation visa before I left Australia. As Goofaholix said, you will need sponsorship documentation from the meditation centre or monastery. The letter will need to include the start and end dates of your stay in Myanmar as well as a brief intended itinerary.
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Gabriel » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:23 pm

Thank you Ben :) So from your experience and knowledge, if I plan on going to more than one place, do I need a sponsorship letter from all the places or only one will do?
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby convivium » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:29 am

you can find places to practice w/out meditation visa, but for long term and certain places you need to get one. when i was there they weren't called meditation visas. or rather there weren't meditation visas, only certain places that required government sponsorships/approved papers. not sure if there is a visa for more than a month but you can get the month visa in bangkok pretty easily in a week or so.
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Goofaholix » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:52 am

Gabriel wrote:Thank you Goofaholix, That would be nice if I could do it from Bangkok. It would allow me time to visit Thai monastery's as much a I need and than go to Burma when I feel ready.:)
Can some one confirm that info?


This is where I saw that Bangkok could now do it within a few days http://sayadawutejaniya.org/news/ , as I said the centre issuing your sponsorship letter will be able to advise you.

I'm not sure how going around several centres would work as the centre issuing your sponsorship letter has to make promises to the government regarding your behaviour while in Myanmar, they can't keep that promise if you go to another centre, again ask the centre issuing your sponsorship letter.
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Ben » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:38 am

Gabriel wrote:Thank you Ben :) So from your experience and knowledge, if I plan on going to more than one place, do I need a sponsorship letter from all the places or only one will do?


This is where I think things could get complicated for you. In my experience, I stayed at a meditation centre for a 30 day meditation retreat and I bookended the elements of a pilgrimage at either end. It wasn't problematical for the Dept of Religious Affairs who issued me with the meditation visa.
What I recommend you do is to make contact with my friend, Snow Aye from Compassionate Travel Myanmar. Snow is a co-practitioner and when I met her in Yangon she had set up the charity Compassionate Hands Foundation and was working as a tour guide in Myanmar assisting western practitioners with their travel plans and showing them around Myanmar. I'm sure Snow will be able to assist by providing advice regarding your travel plans.
http://compassionatetravelmyanmar.com
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Gabriel » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:48 pm

Wow! thank you Ben and Goofaholix :)
This is hard to stay in the present moment whit all those ''well in advance plantings'' ^^ This is interesting I met a co-practitioner who is also a tour guide in Myanmar and have been whit companionate travel as well, not so long ago. He advised me the same tips. He seem a bit confused about my questions :) maybe you Know him : Kory Goldberg. I will email them to see what they say.
To clarify my intention: I want to visit different monasteries to find one that feel good to ordain. Since a mit stay for a long time in robe, I want to see many.

I thing I will go to Thailand first and make my visa there. At this point I will know much more what I'm looking for, after experiencing Thai forest tradition.

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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Chi » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:05 am

Hey!

You can obtain a meditation visa on the same day you apply at the Myanmar Embassy in Bangkok. It costs about 65 dollars. If you can wait one or two days, it is cheaper. You need a sponsorship letter, a couple of passport photos, passport, and application. Near the embassy is a copy shop helping people with forms. I obtained my visa this way about 3 months ago.
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Gabriel » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:42 pm

Thank you every ones :) It really seems like the best option is to go to Thailand. now I will need to know the same kind of info for this country ^^
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby pegasus » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:50 pm

Chi

Looking at the Bangkok Myanmar embassy website, the Visa information pdf states for the meditation visa, you need to have an authorization or approval letter from the Ministry of Affairs (as well as the invitation letter from the prospective meditation centre).

How did you get the approval letter from the Ministry of Affairs?

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Visa Myanmar

Postby Chi » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:23 am

You don't need the letter from Ministry of Affairs, only a letter from a meditation center.
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