Ordination -who offers?

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Ordination -who offers?

Postby rowyourboat » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:41 am

Are there a certain type (upsampada/senior, for example) of monk who can ordain another, or can anyone be approached for this?

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Re: Ordination -who offers?

Postby Goofaholix » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:53 am

rowyourboat wrote:Are there a certain type (upsampada/senior, for example) of monk who can ordain another, or can anyone be approached for this?

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Only a monk authorised to be a preceptor (Upajjhaya) can do this, I'm not sure what the criteria for becoming a Upajjhaya is.
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Re: Ordination -who offers?

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:42 am

Goofaholix wrote:
rowyourboat wrote:Are there a certain type (upsampada/senior, for example) of monk who can ordain another, or can anyone be approached for this?

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Only a monk authorised to be a preceptor (Upajjhaya) can do this, I'm not sure what the criteria for becoming a Upajjhaya is.



This is both true and false!

yes today certain groups, such as in the Thai sangha, Upajayas need permission, but it isn't Vinaya exactly, and I am not sure whether it is a custom of all the sanghas (i.e. burma, lao, Sri Lanka etc.)

Personally I see the authorisation as a safeguard for potential monks, that the upajjhayas meet the minimum qualification described in the texts.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
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Re: Ordination -who offers?

Postby rowyourboat » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:37 pm

If anyone knows the customs in Sri Lanka please let me know.

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