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Re: The cholesterol myth

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Dan you are mostly right. Very little dietary cholesterol is absorbed... how much depends on genetics and your bodies needs at the time, as well as what other foods are consumed at the same time... soluble fiber, etc. The largest dietary contributor to high blood cholesterol is saturated fat. Too much saturated fat decreased LDL receptor density in the liver, decreasing the livers ability to remove LDL cholesterol from the blood and keeping blood levels artificially elevated.

Saying blood cholesterol has no role in atherosclerosis is outright wrong... we can put atherosclerotic plaque under a microscope and see that it is composed of cholesterol and other things. LDL:HDL ratios are still the best predictor we have for CVD mortality as far as I know... its not 100% accurate, because there are SO many other factors involved... oxidation of lipoproteins, vascular inflammation, etc. What really matters is the class of lipoprotein that is elevated... LDL and HDL are a class of lipoprotein, not a single entity, with certain types being prone towards plaque formation and certain types not (thevaptest.com)


http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/may ... vap_01.htm
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Re: The cholesterol myth

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I heard a "report" on the radio that 80% of the brain is made of cholesterol and did some snooping around and found this:



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I'm in the rare position of agreeing with Alex123.

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Re: The cholesterol myth

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while i tend to agree with you dan in general, about the suppression of information by drug companies. how these studies are presented is a good example of how information is incorrectly extrapolated from studies. low cholesterol in psych patients correlating to higher propensity for violence doesn't mean that higher cholesterol is safe or desirable or even that low cholesterol in healthy people will do the same thing... it doesnt even mean that low cholesterol has any causal relationship with violence in the psych patients! same goes for the increased mylenation thing...
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