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CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:51 am
by VanCitySean
Hey guys,

I have a roommate who is a vipassnna meditator and he has done a master cleanse
detox and he says that he can go alot deeper to the enlightened state when
he cleanses,

so i have been contemplating taking on a cleanse to detox my body,

i am thinking about master cleanse but i like to know if there is a recommended cleanse
by the vipassna community and if buddist have a special cleanse ?

i have been a vegiterian for about 2 months now... eating no meat.


like to know your thoughts

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:13 am
by tiltbillings
VanCitySean wrote: i am thinking about master cleanse but i like to know if there is a recommended cleanse
by the vipassna community and if buddist have a special cleanse ?
No.

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:51 am
by bodom
VanCitySean wrote: i am thinking about master cleanse but i like to know if there is a recommended cleanse
by the vipassna community and if buddist have a special cleanse?
Only to cleanse your mind of greed, hatred and delusion.

:anjali:

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:51 am
by Goofaholix
"go alot deeper to the enlightened state" doesn't sound like something a vipassana meditator would say, unless he misunderstands what the practice is about.

I notice when I fast that sensations in the body are stronger, and my awareness a little more vivid. I do believe after a few days when the the sensations from toxins subside that one would have an enhanced ability to concentrate but I've only ever fasted for 2-4 days at a time so haven't experienced this.

I don't think there is a recommended cleanse in vipassana circles, I don't recall hearing a teacher ever recommending going on a cleanse.

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:35 am
by PeterB
Thankfully the Theravada is free from the kind of psuedo science and body fascism that gives rise to nonsense like the concept of detoxing. Which doesnt mean that all of its adherents have escaped being brainwashed by such notions. Whatever your friend is experiencing VanCitySean you can be fairly sure it has nothing to do with Enlightenment as taught by the Buddha.

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:39 am
by tiltbillings
PeterB wrote:Thankfully the Theravada is free from the kind of psuedo science and body fascism that gives rise to nonsense like the concept of detoxing. Which doesnt mean that all of its adherents have escaped being brainwashed by such notions. Whatever your friend is experiencing VanCitySean you can be fairly sure it has nothing to do with Enlightenment as taught by the Buddha.
As is said in Hatha Yoga: If the colon is right the mind is right.

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:41 am
by jcsuperstar
oh come on peter, who doesn't like a good wheat grass enema before they meditate? really helps cleanse the aura and get the chakras lined up and spinning!

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:42 am
by PeterB
Well there you go. Cancel that Vipassana retreat and invest instead into a big bag of bran..
" Throw out those old fusty Dhamma books, know the complete freedom of the Cacayana "

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:44 am
by retrofuturist
The only cleansing and detox is sila and precept observance.

:anjali:

Metta,
Retro. :)

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:48 am
by tiltbillings
jcsuperstar wrote: chakras lined up and spinning!

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:50 am
by tiltbillings
PeterB wrote:Cacayana "
It uses the Septic System.

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:51 am
by tiltbillings
A pause while we move to the lounge.

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:57 am
by tiltbillings
Apologies to the OP, but this just one of those subjects that invites the inner 13 year-old boys to emerge.

While a healthy body is generally important, the sort of bodily concerns of detoxing, etc, are not part of the traditional vipassana tradition.

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:48 am
by alan
It's true the OP was kind of silly.
However..,
Yoga and rigorous exercise, along with proper nutrition, contribute to a healthier body and a clearer mind.
Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Re: CLeansing and detox to go deeper

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:51 am
by tiltbillings
alan wrote:It's true the OP was kind of silly.
However..,
Yoga and rigorous exercise, along with proper nutrition, contribute to a healthier body and a clearer mind.
Don't knock it until you've tried it.
I don't think that is really contested. What is contested is that a clean colon will lead to deeper insight by virtue of being clean.