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New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:19 am
by Bhikkhu Pesala
BBC News Article

If you're a vegan would you eat this? If not why not?

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:36 am
by m0rl0ck
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:BBC News Article

If you're a vegan would you eat this? If not why not?
Its milk from a mammal and i would tend to view it as just that. I personally woudnt touch it. Sounds disgusting.
"Some people will hear about it and go yuck - but actually it's pure organic, free-range and totally natural."

"free - range" :rofl:

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:54 am
by cooran
This is very sad.

A far better thing to do would be to become a donor of expressed breast milk to one of the many Milk Banks in the United Kingdom, so that babies of mothers who cannot produce enough milk will be able to have the best food available.

The United Kingdom Association for Milk Banking
http://www.ukamb.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

with metta
Chris

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:03 am
by retrofuturist
Greetings,
cooran wrote:A far better thing to do would be to become a donor of expressed breast milk to one of the many Milk Banks in the United Kingdom, so that babies of mothers who cannot produce enough milk will be able to have the best food available.
Alas, economies are built around greed rather than need.

Metta,
Retro. :)

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:16 am
by PeterB
Leaving aside ( for now) commercialisation issues...what for example if product was free ? And the milk superfluous ?

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:52 am
by Ben
I really need to get out samsara, now.

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:54 am
by Mawkish1983
Ben wrote:I really need to get out samsara, now.
Don't we all

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:04 am
by Ben
Mawkish1983 wrote:
Ben wrote:I really need to get out samsara, now.
Don't we all
Yes, Mawk, you are right.
Reading that article just sparked my samvega. I hope it did for you too. And if not that, then perhaps something else.

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:22 am
by Sylvester
Another stir/churn from 2003, this time in China-

http://wocview.wordpress.com/2003/01/30 ... nese-fury/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The exploitation of peasants in that case lends new meaning to being milked.

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:30 am
by Mawkish1983
Ben wrote:samvega
I had to look it up, but yes, that's a good description of my reaction.

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:54 am
by nobody12345
I have to retract my support.
I did not read the article but misunderstood that the Ice-cream is one of the new breeds from Trader Joes and Whole foods market.
I have just read the entire article.
I don't eat any dessert but even if I eat Ice-cream or dessert, I would not touch it.

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:11 pm
by Dharma_Bum
I wouldn't eat it. I still view this as exploiting an animal and I am against that (just my opinion). Besides, I am not a big fan of ice-cream anyways.

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:44 pm
by Aloka
I totally agree with Chris. This is very sad.
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Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:31 pm
by DNS
Definitely not. I am mostly vegan and would not eat this.

It's not that vegans are opposed to just cow milk, but rather to all milk, from any animal, which includes humans. Vegans support nursing for infants, but feel it is not necessary for any animal over the age of about 1 to 2. Humans are the only species that still consumes milk and milk products beyond the age of 1.

My avoidance of milk and milk products has more to do with nutrition than with any Dhamma teachings, although I am sure some dairy cows are mistreated, but not all.

Re: New Kind of Ice-cream for Vegans

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:36 pm
by Jhana4
David N. Snyder wrote: It's not that vegans are opposed to just cow milk, but rather to all milk, from any animal, which includes humans. Vegans support nursing for infants, but feel it is not necessary for any animal over the age of about 1 to 2. Humans are the only species that still consumes milk and milk products beyond the age of 1.
Actually, veganism is about ethics and not necessarily about nutrition. Veganism has only been around since 1944 when Donald Watson broke away from the Vegetarian Society Of The UK. He coined the world "vegan" to refer to the ethical belief that it is wrong to exploit animals.

Given that, I don't think most vegans would be keen on supporting an industry that would probably result in rooms full of poor women being hooked up to breast pumps and pumped full of drugs to produce a non-necessary food.