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Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:54 pm
by Annapurna
YOU caused ME suffering.

Thanks for withdrawing.

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:07 pm
by Mawkish1983
Mawkish1983 wrote:
Mawkish1983 wrote:There are LOADS of reasons to avoid bottled water (environmental, financial, ethical...) --- fear of cancer shouldn't be one of them ... Yet I sit his hypocritically sipping from a bottle of water
Wow, what a typo. It's supposed to say I sit HERE hypocritically. Sorry if anyone thought I was calling Ben a hypocrite: I wasn't, I was calling myself one!
Oh poo, and I edited that post rather than quoting it and only just noticed. I really MUST be tired!

Right, just to clarify, I've called no-one a hypocrite except myself!! :)

Edit: soooo, :focus: ?

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:17 pm
by Ben
Hi Anna,
Annapurna wrote:
Ben wrote: A couple of thoughts...

...then forget it!

Hello, Ben,

I'm not sure if we are all free of misunderstandings here....

...I wish I hadn't posted this, since the echo is so overwhelmingly negative.
My apologies if I appear to come across as mocking you, as it was not my intention.
As for the claim regarding heated plastic water-bottles causing cancer, I am unapologetic.
Any claim of a substance or process as being carcinogenic should be scrutinized and exposed for what it is. Its very easy to whip up fear and sensationalism with misinformation regarding purported carcinogenic properties of substances. Its always good after reading such an article or chain e-mail is to ask 'where is the evidence?' And if there is no evidence in the form of at least one leading peer-reviewed medical journal article nor a material data safety sheet, then it is what it is - and I don't think I need to tell you what I think that is.
kind regards

Ben

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:13 pm
by Viscid
annapurna wrote:On the Ellen show, Sheryl Crow said that this is what caused her breast cancer.
Looks like she didn't.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/medica ... -water.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:34 pm
by Kim OHara
Fede wrote: The Oprah ain't oven until the fat lady singes.... :jumping:
Singes?
You're going to blow-torch her??
:jawdrop:
:rofl:
Kim

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:42 pm
by Fede
Viscid wrote:
annapurna wrote:On the Ellen show, Sheryl Crow said that this is what caused her breast cancer.
Looks like she didn't.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/medica ... -water.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story..... :jumping:

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:44 pm
by Fede
Kim O'Hara wrote:
Fede wrote: The Oprah ain't oven until the fat lady singes.... :jumping:
Singes?
You're going to blow-torch her??
:jawdrop:
:rofl:
Kim
No, just stick her in the car on a sunny day, for a while...see what happens to all that plastic (surgery)......

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:59 pm
by Kim OHara
Okay.
You could certainly use a car as an oven, here in Queensland, but Oprah didn't seem to deform much when she visited recently. Perhaps she's more genuine than some of us thought?
Kim

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:14 am
by Kim OHara
Back to the (fairly? pseudo?) serious stuff.
This arrived in my email last week:
Denmark, who would have thought?

This is so like the bay in Japan about which the very moving doco film was made; and it was by petitions like this, that eventually the film was shown in Japan, and something was done about it. The doco eventually won an international humanitarian film award; so very deserving. So a petition like this can work.
Anyway it can help to raise awareness, so if you care, do add your name and send it on.
Please keep list going around the world....hit forward then delete my e-mail address, then add your name to the bottom of the list before you send it on to people (Note send it on - bcc so a harvester cannot gather people's addresses for marketing) !

Denmark is involved in a shameful practice.

The sea is stained in red and currently it's not because of the climate effects of nature.
[pic deleted]
It's because of the cruelty that the human beings (civilised human) kill hundreds of the famous and intelligent Calderon dolphins.
There is more, but that's enough to give you the idea.
It was forwarded to me in good faith by a family member who is not, perhaps, as internet-savvy as I am - just as the plastic/breast-cancer email has been circulated. It has no date and is anonymous - not a good sign. I searched on a phrase from the text and tracked it back to 1994, and it may be even older.

There is another one which surfaces from time to time, about turtle egg poaching in Costa Rica. That one I *did* manage to track to its origins. It uses genuine photos of a legitimate activity to illustrate a story of 'environmental vandalism'.

In all such cases, a certain amount of scepticism is a good idea and Snopes http://www.snopes.com/ is a good resource. When I do discover that one of these chain letters is blatantly wrong, I propagate that information back up the chain. It will never kill the myth but it may slow its spread.
:namaste:
Kim

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:29 am
by Kim OHara
xkcd is on to it: http://xkcd.com/882/
:spy:
Kim

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:56 am
by Dan74
Kim O'Hara wrote:Back to the (fairly? pseudo?) serious stuff.
This arrived in my email last week:
Denmark, who would have thought?

This is so like the bay in Japan about which the very moving doco film was made; and it was by petitions like this, that eventually the film was shown in Japan, and something was done about it. The doco eventually won an international humanitarian film award; so very deserving. So a petition like this can work.
Anyway it can help to raise awareness, so if you care, do add your name and send it on.
Please keep list going around the world....hit forward then delete my e-mail address, then add your name to the bottom of the list before you send it on to people (Note send it on - bcc so a harvester cannot gather people's addresses for marketing) !

Denmark is involved in a shameful practice.

The sea is stained in red and currently it's not because of the climate effects of nature.
[pic deleted]
It's because of the cruelty that the human beings (civilised human) kill hundreds of the famous and intelligent Calderon dolphins.
There is more, but that's enough to give you the idea.
It was forwarded to me in good faith by a family member who is not, perhaps, as internet-savvy as I am - just as the plastic/breast-cancer email has been circulated. It has no date and is anonymous - not a good sign. I searched on a phrase from the text and tracked it back to 1994, and it may be even older.

There is another one which surfaces from time to time, about turtle egg poaching in Costa Rica. That one I *did* manage to track to its origins. It uses genuine photos of a legitimate activity to illustrate a story of 'environmental vandalism'.

In all such cases, a certain amount of scepticism is a good idea and Snopes http://www.snopes.com/ is a good resource. When I do discover that one of these chain letters is blatantly wrong, I propagate that information back up the chain. It will never kill the myth but it may slow its spread.
:namaste:
Kim
Kim, if it's the ritual in Faroes Islands, I believe this is quite true:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... ition.html

Re: Please read this when you use a microwave or bottled water

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:38 am
by Kim OHara
Thanks, Dan. It's not nice news but the truth is always preferable to the lie.
I found a couple more references which back up yours: http://www.snopes.com/photos/hunting/dolphinhunt.asp
rates it 'probably true' and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin_drive_hunting describes it (and similar practices in other countries) as ongoing.

That means only (?) three of the last four such rumours to reach me proved false.
:juggling:
Kim