New Book on Mindfulness by Thanissaro Bhikkhu

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Postby Sylvester » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:03 am

I wish I had kept handy a compilation of those sutta passages that support the bare attention approach. Then we can see if Ven T actually addresses the points raised in those suttas. I can only recall offhand his attempts at -

- re-writing the sutta recommending anapanasati to cut off thinking (which he then qualifies to "distractive" thinking)
- re-writing DN 9 which injuncts against thinking and intending in all the Jhanas, by mistranslating the text to limit the injunction to only the Base of Nothingness.

I think the picture that he paints of the establishments of mindfulness has its place, especially when dealing with gross defilements, but there are enough sutta references to point to a silent awareness of states. As MN 125 presents it (in 2 variant readings), what follows from satipatthana is just contemplation, without thoughts about the object of contemplation.

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Re: New Book on Mindfulness by Thanissaro Bhikkhu

Postby danieLion » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:37 am

Hi all,
I've been listening to some of the most recently posted at Insight Mediation Center's audiodharma.org and noticed she doesn't seem conflicted in citing Reverend Thanissaro and Joseph Goldstein as two of her teachers.

She's a very intelligent woman and so I'm sure she's noticed differences between these two teachers, yet she speaks very highly of both.

How do you suppose she's managed to learn from both teachers to good effect?

Best,
Daniel

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Re: New Book on Mindfulness by Thanissaro Bhikkhu

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:goodpost:

If one wants to be precise "bare attention" is more akin to sampajañña than to sati.


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