Is metta meditation necessary?

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Is metta meditation necessary?

Postby Digity » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:53 am

Is metta meditation necessary? I do sitting and walking meditation daily, but still haven't gotten to doing any metta meditation. I think part of me doesn't think it's worth it. I feel like you can achieve metta through wisdom. For instance, if you have jealousy then you can use wisdom to see through jealousy and eliminate it. In that sense, if you can eliminate negative states through wisdom then why do the metta practice?

Having said all that, I do have times when my mind is just racing with negative thoughts and I just can't stop them. They're like a run away train, but I just kind of watch them run around like insane monsters. Eventually they lose steam and die down. However, it still doesn't feel good being in this state of mind, but at least it's contained through mindfulness. I just wonder, if I practice metta maybe these states of mind could be avoided.

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Re: Is metta meditation necessary?

Postby Ben » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:58 am

I think its a mistake to pick or choose that we find easy and avoid that we find difficult. Sooner or later, practice will seem like the hardest thing in the world to do or continue with. What will you do then? Abandon it?
Maybe you should commit yourself to a particular approach and maintain it for a year or two before assessing whether it was worthwhile or not.
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Re: Is metta meditation necessary?

Postby fivebells » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:29 am

Developing the capacity to establish a positive frame of mind during unpleasant experiences is essential to the practice. Metta practice is probably the easiest way to do that.

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Re: Is metta meditation necessary?

Postby Digity » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:36 am

Does everyone who does metta meditation feel like they've benefited from it in a profound way? How long did it take before you experienced noticeable effects?

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Re: Is metta meditation necessary?

Postby BlackBird » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:52 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Is metta meditation necessary?

Postby Ben » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:56 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Is metta meditation necessary?

Postby Digity » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:38 am

Interesting. I think part of the reason I've had trouble starting metta practice is that my mind tends to be very logically driven and I don't think I'm as in touch with my emotional side. I tend to tackle everything from a logical perspective and seek the wisdom in it. So, if I'm feeling angry or whatever I start to observe the anger and try to understand what are the causes and conditions of its arising. I kind of feel comfortable doing things this way and therefore, don't usually feel the need to develop the metta practice. However, maybe I should do it and just see what it does for me.

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Re: Is metta meditation necessary?

Postby Strive4Karuna » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:41 pm

In my opinion, meditation on metta, karuna, upekkha is the most beautiful meditation you can do. There have been many arahants and buddhas that have past through our world, but all with varying degrees of metta and karuna. The Buddha Shakyamuni has stated that there have been countless Paechekka Buddhas who have come before him but left this world without helping anybody. They only lived for themselves. To respect metta and karuna is to respect those countless samasan buddhas such as Shaykamuni, such as Maitreya who will come in the future who not only achieve enlightenment but have the compassion and love for others to stay behind and help us through our suffering. Also, there are many ways to achieve enlightenment. In the Majjhima Nikaya it has been stated that for one who develops loving kindness, compassion, altruistic joy and equanimity to a very high degree, enlightenment will be achieved.
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