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disturbing noise and anger

Postby awakenedmind » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:15 pm

I want to know what one should do when one is unable to change the conditions.
I am talking about noisy conditions at home,
when the other family members are watching tv.
the sound is loud no matter how much I tell them.
the noise does disturb and I want to change this.
I want to accept the noise but I just am unable to do so.
I get irritated and angry due to that noise
and there's a lot of irritating feelings coming up so I am unable to meditate.
hec, even if I am just sitting reading a book
and others are watching tv, I get disturbed.
the noise breaks my concentration
and there's lot of irritation and anger coming up then.

please give me some advice, so I can be at peace even with all that noise.

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby santa100 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:35 pm

Maybe more metta meditation. If that still doesn't work, you might want to try those noise-cancelling headphones..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headphones ... _reduction

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby Babadhari » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:24 pm

i used to have the same problem. while i was meditating at night and in the morning , he'd flush the toilet , run up and down the stairs, do the washing up or such things..... normal things,necessities

i found anger stirring but just told myself be aware of the sound, to note it.... hearing, hearing - and i'd pretty much forget about it
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Re: disturbing noise and anger

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby Babadhari » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:44 pm

it might be one of the reasons i live alone now :shrug:
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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby bodom » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:47 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby Babadhari » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:58 pm

i spoke to a friend before about not being able to have a silent enviroment to meditate in and she told me not to search outside for silence, but to search for the silence within. it worked eventually with a little patience when i took the pressure off
Aflame with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion.
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......

Seeing thus, the disciple of the Noble One grows disenchanted. SN 35.28

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby purple planet » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:06 pm

As long as its not a ear- hurting sound level - sounds during vipasana meditation are a blessing

i have back problem - and i always wonder should i ignore this pain or is it to much - but with sounds that are not health threatening you can work easily

i do the labeling technique - so i note three times "hearing , hearing ,hearing " (why 3 times ? cause its not to long you get attached to the sound - and not to short that you want it to go away - when you truly can "accept" it and not feel you want it to go away or to stay it will disappear and or at least be "reduced" and not your main focus of your mind so it would be easier to get back to focus on the breath ) usually after you practice some time the noise disappears and you should get back to the rising and falling of the stomach while breathing " rising , falling" - this is of course in my way of meditation not sure how it goes in samatha for example

but i love not health troubling distractions like itching and sounds - they are a great way to build equanimity very fast and when you get to real "problems" like back pain you can deal with them better
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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby Mkoll » Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:26 am

Dear awakenedmind,

I know what you mean. Here are some tips - please forgive me if some are obvious or you've tried them already.

* Meditate in the early morning when everyone is still asleep.

* Don't meditate at all when noise is present or imminent. Read something and if it's still disturbing your reading, use earplugs (I use earplugs a lot!) and/or use a fan/white noise machine.

* See what you can do about blocking/damping sound into your meditation space. You can block the slit under your door with some soundproofing material. Or if you're at the end of a hallway or similar space, you can use a tension rod and fasten a heavy blanket to it to dampen sound.

* Don't try to develop deep concentration when there is noise or when you know that noise is imminent. When doing vipassana or satipatthana, distractions aren't as bothersome and can simply be looked at through the lens of insight or mindfulness.

* Try experimenting with different meditations when there is noise until you find one that allows you to be at relative peace even with the noise.

* If possible, meditate elsewhere/outside or move to a new residence.

* If you plan on living on your own in the future, remembering that you won't have to bear this particular annoyance forever will make it easier to accept.

Hope that helps!

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby purple planet » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:07 pm

Just wanted to say that i wrote all i wrote in case you practice vipasana cause im not sure what you practice - im pretty sure samtha has its own ways to deal with noise maybe by increasing your focus on the breath
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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby awakenedmind » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:01 pm

hmm, really good advice.
I will look for the ear plugs too.
I do samatha meditation mostly.
first trying to calm myself and then work on vipassana.
but these days it's getting really difficult to calm down.
I also try to meditate late at night when everybody has gone to sleep
but am unable to do so in the morning, because I find it difficult to get up in the morning.

The difficult part is that the noise from the tv kind of makes me angry at those people watching tv.
and I can't help thinking more angry thoughts about them.
most other noises dont bother me as much as tv.
seems it's more of my anger at people making the noise than the noise itself.

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby Mkoll » Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:47 pm

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby bodom » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:06 am

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

Postby Pondera » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:31 am

I would also recommend listening to the noise. You might learn that it is not as noisy as you first thought. If you cannot avoid it, ignoring it is sort of like attempting to pretend it isn't there. It takes more energy to ignore loud, obnoxious sounds than it does to accept them into your ears. Just one opinion.

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Re: disturbing noise and anger

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