Is meditation Kamma?

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Is meditation Kamma?

Postby SarathW » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:06 pm

Is meditation Kamma?
How meditation could be kamma if there is no physical action?
If Just good thought alone take you to a good rebirth then the just the bad thought alone should take you to a bad destination!
If just good thought alone take you to a good destination what is the motivation to do good things?
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Re: Is meditation Kamma?

Postby Ben » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:17 pm

Greetings, Sarath.
Kamma as just physical action is the Jain view of Kamma.
Buddhist view of kamma is that it is intention.
The intention to meditate is kamma, the intention that is there from moment to moment to follow the object of meditation is kamma.
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Re: Is meditation Kamma?

Postby Paul Davy » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:18 pm

Greetings,

Khantipalo Bhikkhu wrote:The Buddha says all intentional actions, whether thoughts, speech or bodily actions, however expressed, are kamma and lead the doer of them to experience a result sooner or later.

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Retro. :)
What is the final conviction that comes when radical attention is razor-edge sharp? That the object of the mind is mind-made (manomaya). (Ven. Ñāṇananda)

Having understood name-and-form, which is a product of prolificity,
And which is the root of all malady within and without,
He is released from bondage to the root of all maladies,
That Such-like-one is truly known as 'the one who has understood'.
(Snp 3.6)

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Re: Is meditation Kamma?

Postby culaavuso » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:57 pm

SN 35.146: Kamma Sutta wrote:Katamañca, bhikkhave, navakammaṃ? Yaṃ kho, bhikkhave, etarahi kammaṃ karoti kāyena vācāya manasā, idaṃ vuccati, bhikkhave, navakammaṃ.

And what, bhikkhus is new kamma? Whatever action one does now by body, speech, or mind. This is called new kamma.


AN 6.63: Nibbedhika Sutta wrote:Cetanāhaṃ, bhikkhave, kammaṃ vadāmi. Cetayitvā kammaṃ karoti– kāyena vācāya manasā.

Intention, I tell you, is kamma. Intending, one does kamma by way of body, speech, & intellect.

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Re: Is meditation Kamma?

Postby pegembara » Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:22 am

It is kamma that leads to the ending of kamma.

http://www.cittaviveka.org/files/books/ ... 0Kamma.pdf
And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.


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