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A Glimmer of Light

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A Glimmer of Light

Postby Collective » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:15 am

Have to share this with you.

I was meditating this morning, when it suddenly dawned on me - nothing is permanent.

Sure I'd heard the 'phrase' with my hearing, and it had settled there in my mind, and I knew what they were talking about in general, but this morning, it hit me. 'Nothing' is permanent. Pain, steel, suns, relationships, fear, love, laughter, anger - none of this lasts - not even this typing :) The phrase 'Annica' suddenly came to life and I understood deeply, on another level what it was telling me.

So from that, came the natural progressin to the realisation 'so why get attached to this life/car/relationship/fear/love/anger?

Which in turn had a knock on effect: So live life to the full.

And through meditation, and vipassana (in particular?), we learn to do this - to live this life to the full. To expereince and appreciate every second/moment like it's your last. Because for definite, at some point, it will be.

It's like the door of understanding just became unlocked, now I have to keep looking beyond it.

I know this seems very obvious to some of you, but for me it really was a bit of insight. It was like I had this jigsaw puzzle lying at my feet, I even had the box cover showing me the completed picture - but I hadn't put the pieces together myself until this morning. Something clicked.

What do you think?

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby Ben » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:59 am

Well done, Collective! I hope it gives you inspiration and confidence to keep going!
metta

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby Collective » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:56 pm

Oh it felt good. But you know what? Later through the day, I started losing this 'insight', this relisation. The more I tried to remember exactly how I felt, the more insubstantial it became. I've almost reverted back to the point I was before meditating this morning. But that's not so bad because now I know this meditation thing works, and that it can bring little insights now and then. I just have to keep watching the breath and hope that one day, it all sticks.

Thanks all :)

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby Kenshou » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:11 pm

All things are anicca, including insights into anicca. Damnit, eh?

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby Ben » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:20 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby baratgab » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:43 pm

"Just as in the great ocean there is but one taste — the taste of salt — so in this Doctrine and Discipline there is but one taste — the taste of freedom"

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby jcsuperstar » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:46 pm

สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby Ben » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:20 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby baratgab » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:57 am

"Just as in the great ocean there is but one taste — the taste of salt — so in this Doctrine and Discipline there is but one taste — the taste of freedom"

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby Ben » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:26 pm

Hi Collective
At this point, don't focus too heavily on Nibbana or attaining this or that insight. Certainly, they are good focal point as the proverbial light on the hill. The goal. The day-to-day work of maintaining our precepts, developing samadhi and panna, will improve the quality of your life. The cultivation of vipassana in meditative practice means that it directly erodes the mental defilements which are the active seeds of our continued suffering. And as our mind becomes slowly freed from their influence, our life is characterised by the slow eradication of craving, aversion and ignorance in its manifold variations and our blind habitual mental and behavioural patterns. Having said that, the cultivation of vipassana is dependent on both the maintenance of sila and samadhi. As one develops in one's progress and erodes those defilements, insights also develop. When those insights occur, we have to remember to also let them go.
metta

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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e: [email protected]..

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby rowyourboat » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:22 pm

Our ignorance is as thick as concrete. Insight need 'working into' the mind for there to be progress along the stages of insight. Or to put it in another way, anicca needs to be repeatedly, continuously seen for minutes, hours, days. It helps to choose a meditation object which changes quite a lot and be mindful of it. It becomes symbolic of everything in existence -impermanance. Stay focused on it's impermanant nature- not anything else like it's colour, sound or duration. You could use the breath or do bare awareness (stimuli from all 6 sense bases one after the other). I find the latter more helpful in striking anicca home as it show anicca in everything we could possibly be attached to. This work is not easy, but the Buddha found the way to freedom through something which normal humans wouldn't want to even look at.

Don't forget precepts and samadhi.

Best of luck with your practice!
With Metta

Karuna
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& Upekkha

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby Collective » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:37 am

Thanks all

After I finish my meditation kit on vipassana, I would like to read a book on Samhadi, the meditation that nurtures states of jhana. Not vipassana. Just so I can make the distinction between the 2 - and find which works best for me. Could someone please suggest a good book on jhana?

Thank you :namaste:

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby DorjePhurba » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:05 pm

Collective, I'd recommend you read Focused and Fearless by Shaila Catherine. It's the best book I've read on jhana and I've gone through the most popular. Just remember that not everything is 100 percent the way the author says it is. There is some room for interpretation, so just keep that in mind. I would definetly suggest you try some jhana practice as jhana is what the Buddha called right concentration and it makes the development of wisdom. I respect those who do vipassana, but I think jhana is undervalued, which I believe is largely due to some traditions reliance on certain texts. Anyhow, if you are interested in a fantastic overview of the Buddhas path to awakening then check out "the wings to awakening" by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Hope this helps my friend.

With metta,
Chris

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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby bodom » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:19 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: A Glimmer of Light

Postby Collective » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:43 pm

Would this be any good:

Thanks all


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